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Monday, August 23, 2021

Do You Have A Complaint About Amway?

Do You Have A Complaint About Amway?

 Over the years, I've come across literally hundreds (if not thousands) of blogs and testimonials praising Amway and its products. The majority of them express dissatisfaction with the difficulties of being an Amway Independent Business Owner. The majority of the complaints point to the fact that Amway generally charges higher prices than comparable retailers, as well as the fact that the system, which includes voicemail, books, CDs, and seminars, ate up any profits that the IBO might have made, resulting in net losses for the majority of them. Amway has not responded to the majority of the complaints. One particular Amway apologist bemoans the fact that the internet is replete with negative testimonials about the organisation. Why there are so many negative testimonies about Amway is because thousands, probably millions of people have either had a horrible experience with the company for the reasons I mentioned above, or directly know of someone who has had a bad experience with the company over time.

In defence of Amway, many independent business owners (IBOs) sign up and "do nothing," which is commonly cited as a justification. Nonetheless, I will readily point out that I have not heard of anyone who has joined Amway and then failed to accomplish anything or order items, before quitting and blogging about their terrible experience with the company. They will also equate Amway to a gym where individuals sign up but then "do nothing." Whether this is true or not, I do not see folks who sign up and then "do nothing" complain about not receiving health benefits because they did not do anything at all after signing up. It is a pretty ineffective line of defence. On the other hand, I have read several examples of people like myself who put up effort, some for many years, who followed upline's instructions, and yet did not reap the financial rewards that are advertised in "the plan."

Amway's defenders will then attempt to justify their position by claiming that the Better Business Bureau (BBB) gets few formal complaints about the company (see below). This is something I agree with. Many Independent Business Owners (IBOs) never bother to register official complaints with the Better Business Bureau or with Amway because in many, if not most, cases, the person who quits and may have had a terrible experience was sponsored into the business by someone else. The sponsor was frequently a friend or family member of the IBO who had previously left the firm to pursue other opportunities. Many people will simply go and forget about the incident, referring to it as a life lesson learned the hard way. Some will be dissatisfied, but they will have nowhere to express their dissatisfaction with their decision to participate. Some of us have discovered that sharing our experiences and our ideas on why the business did not succeed on the Internet has proven to be a very useful method of communication. This is referred to as the "online battle" by one of Amway's defenders. The fact that critics most often merely point out what the IBOs themselves have done is something I've already mentioned. A lot of the time, the IBO is his own worst adversary. After all, detractors didn't deny that Amway and Quixtar had a connection, nor did they make up promises about perfect water or anything like that, as some have done.

It appears that the majority of the issues are related to AMO systems such as WWDB, BWW, LTD, or N21, rather than other sources. Now, not all upline leaders are unethical, but it appears that a significant number of them are, and new IBOs have no way of distinguishing between the good and the bad. There is also a possibility that some of these upline leaders will give incorrect counsel. Advice that is destructive to the IBOs but financially favourable to oneself, such as telling IBOs to never miss a function or to purchase more CDs, is an example of this type of behaviour. The majority of the time, these unethical uplines are not concerned with IBO performance; rather, their purpose is to shift as many support materials as possible in order to finance their "diamond" lifestyle. Unfortunately, it has also become evident that the diamond lifestyle may in some circumstances be a ruse. An optical illusion of prosperity that is used as a recruitment tactic.

If you identify some of these warning flags, you should ask tough questions of your possible sponsor and look into it further by visiting this blog or some of the blogs linked to it for additional information.

Amway is a multinational firm that engages in direct sales and has been in business for more than 60 years. those may have unpleasant experiences with the company or its products, and they may have complaints about many parts of the company's business procedures, just as there are those who have poor experiences with major corporations in general.


The accusation that Amway is a pyramid system is one of the most frequent that is leveled against the company. Pyramid schemes are characterized as business models in which participants earn money largely through recruiting others into the scheme rather than through the sale of products or services. These schemes are considered unlawful in many countries and are defined as business models. Although Amway has in the past been subjected to legal challenges in connection with this matter, the corporation continues to argue that it is in compliance with the law when conducting business as a direct selling organization.


One such criticism leveled about Amway is that their items have excessively high prices for their level of quality. Some people who have used Amway goods have claimed that they are ineffective or that they had negative side effects as a result of using them. Others, on the other hand, have reported favorable outcomes from their interactions with the products and have deemed them to be of superior quality and useful.


Some Amway distributors have voiced their dissatisfaction with the company's training and support services, claiming that they do not believe they have gotten sufficient instruction or assistance to be successful in the business. Others have mentioned that they felt compelled to make substantial inventory purchases in order to fulfill sales objectives or qualify for bonuses, which has left them in a difficult financial position.


In spite of these criticisms, Amway maintains a substantial and loyal customer and distributor base, both of which are committed to the success of the firm and the items it sells. Many people have had excellent experiences with Amway and have been able to develop successful companies as distributors of the company's products and services.


It is imperative that you address any concerns you may have regarding Amway or the products it sells in a direct manner with the firm. Amway offers a customer service department and a compliance department. The customer service department can help resolve issues pertaining to product quality or delivery, while the compliance section can investigate complaints of unethical or unlawful business practices.


In conclusion, despite the fact that Amway and its business practices have been the subject of criticism on multiple occasions, the corporation continues to enjoy the support of a large number of pleased customers and prosperous distributors. If you are thinking about becoming an Amway distributor or purchasing any of the company's products, it is imperative that you perform the necessary research and come to a conclusion that is well-informed and based on your individual requirements and preferences. It is imperative that you discuss any issues or concerns you may have with the organization in order to expedite the process of finding a solution to those issues.


Amway Losses Result In Tax Windfalls?

Amway Losses Result In Tax Windfalls?

 In my experience, many independent business owners are misled by their upline into believing that business losses which result in a tax refund are equivalent to profits or that they are receiving a free pass because the government is footing the bill for their standing orders and functions, among other things. In the past, independent business owners (IBOs) have been audited and had many business deductions denied because the tax authorities determined that they were not genuinely running a business but rather were participating in an Amway-sponsored pastime.

I understand that the majority of independent business owners (IBOs) deduct the cost of their training materials from their taxes; nevertheless, the question at hand is whether the training materials are resulting in greater sales for your company. If you own and operate a "buy from yourself" business, there is a good chance that your spending will not be deductible when it comes time to file your taxes. If you are not making a profit from the things you offer to consumers, there is a potential that your expenses will not be considered genuine deductions. The prospect of being audited at tax time a few years after becoming an Amway business owner and discovering that your expenses were not legitimate and that you may owe tens of thousands of dollars in back taxes would be heartbreaking.

The belief that their business expenses are essentially tax-free since they may receive a tax refund appears to be another apparently widespread misunderstanding among independent business owners. In most cases, your expenses can be deducted from your taxable income. The amount of your return would be determined by your tax bracket if you have $10,000 in business expenses. If you are in the 15 percent tax bracket, $10,000 in expenses would result in a tax return of approximately $1,500, depending on whether you have any other deductions. However, IBOs are tricked into believing they made a profit and are now entitled to a $1,500 refund, despite the fact that they may not have received a refund in the past. In this particular instance, it is clear that the IBO would have been better off conserving the $10,000 and staying away from Amway altogether. Some independent business owners (IBOs) are delighted to announce their refunds as essentially a windfall, almost as if they were a profit. That is extremely frightening.

Folks, there is no such thing as a free ride. In the event that you are spending money on legitimate company expenses with the intention of making a profit, there is nothing improper with doing so. However, if you are flying to conventions in the hopes of learning the secret to sponsoring additional downline, you may be putting yourself in a precarious position if the Internal Revenue Service decides to audit your business. As a result of the business support materials they purchased, there have been numerous instances in the past where IBOs have not only lost their shirts, but have been further penalised when the Internal Revenue Service refuses to accept tax deductions, resulting in their financial disaster. I sincerely hope you are not heading down that road.

For further information, please see this link: http://www.apollowebworks.com/amway/irs.html

"TRAVEL AND ENTERTAINMENT have traditionally been high-profile targets of exploitation. Sections 162, 262, and 274 are always applicable, while Section 183 is sometimes applicable as well. Since the majority of the travel is essentially for the purpose of attending social gatherings for the goal of amusement and motivation, any genuine business purpose seems questionable. It is recommended that travel be denied unless the taxpayer can demonstrate that attending seminars, meetings, and other events satisfies the requirements of Section 162. Amway representatives have been unable to demonstrate that attending these meetings resulted in improved sales. The agendas of these events appear to be mostly focused on entertainment, mingling, and listening to motivational speakers, rather than on any other activities. Neither the meetings nor the products promoted at them have anything to do with promoting Amway products to the general public. It is strictly forbidden for Amway distributors to mention the company or the word selling when recruiting new downline members. Because it is unlikely that the taxpayer will enhance his sales as a result of attending these occasions, the visits do not serve a legitimate business purpose."

Amway And Pro Sports?

Amway And Pro Sports?

 Every year, tens of millions of children across the United States pursue their aspirations of participating in sports. Some wish to play professionally, some wish to play at the university level, while yet others may like to dazzle their high school classmates. And this holds true for just about any sport, whether it's baseball, football, hockey, basketball, golf, or any other activity you can think of. As you progress through the levels, the number of participants decreases with each successive higher level. There are only a certain number of professional teams and a certain number of college teams, whereas there are a large number of high school teams all over the country. As the difficulty of each level increases, it is likely that better physical attributes and more advanced skills will be required in order to progress.

Amway supporters have made comparisons between the Amway opportunity and the professional world, implying that the higher levels are equivalent to professionals and the lower levels are equivalent to high school students. While I agree that there is only a limited amount of space at the highest levels, I believe it is extremely important to understand why the majority of the population does not reach the highest levels. In order to achieve and excel at the highest level in sports, you would need to have the motivation, the physical abilities, as well as the necessary skills. Consequently, even if they have a great deal of motivation, people of small stature are unlikely to be considered for the NFL. Someone who is less than 6 feet tall may have a difficult time finding work in the NBA. Without a doubt, there will always be exceptions, but those exceptions will most likely be compensated for by incredible "other" skills or leadership abilities. Some athletes have a knack for being in the right place at the right time, or they have something intangible that helps them succeed.

So, what does this have to do with Amway, you might wonder. The connection is made by the large number of IBOs who never make it past the break-even point. They may enter the programme with hopes of achieving financial independence, earning enough to support a stay-at-home wife, or other similar goals. Why do so few people achieve even the most rudimentary levels of success? In my opinion, the Amway business has too many barriers that prevent independent business owners (IBOs) from achieving success. Because of these impediments, it is practically impossible for anyone to advance to higher levels. Among these barriers are high pricing, which make many things difficult to sell in the first place, but are not restricted to this. You also have optional but critical training and functions that generally consume whatever profit the lower level IBOs generate. Any person earning less than 2500 or 4000 PV will lose money when travelling to and from functions via aeroplane. Consider some of the zany things that previous IBOs have done, such as tricking people into attending meetings, not being accountable to downline, or messing with your downline's money, to name a few examples (bouncing checks).

Final analysis reveals that the vast majority of IBOs just lack the ability to overcome the hurdles that can halt the charge of a bull elephant in its tracks. It is for this reason that so many IBOs work so hard and achieve little. Despite the fact that a great deal of effort was put, it appears that these individuals did nothing and gave up. The reality is that the majority of those that sign up were very driven at the time of signing up, but they were discouraged when they encountered an insurmountable obstacle and decided to pursue something else. I know a number of former IBOs who went on to achieve success in other areas of their lives after leaving Amway. Many people do not protest or do not express their dissatisfaction because they were active in Amway with their families and friends.

As a result, there are large numbers of people who desire to reach their goals in Amway and professional sports. In both circumstances, only a small percentage of the population may hit the highest levels. The difference is that athletes are well aware that their chances of winning are slim. IBOs are frequently misled into believing that anyone can achieve diamond and residual income, which is a fallacy that must be dispelled. There are also no scams in professional sports, where people have a proven training system that will ensure success if they put in the effort. In professional sports, it has been demonstrated that the elite earn millions of dollars. Amway diamonds, on the other hand, appear to shroud their success in secrecy, posting pictures of mansions to demonstrate their wealth. Additionally, athletes who do not make it to the pros may have benefited from receiving a free college education. To my knowledge, there are no success stories in Amway for those who don't "make it," despite the fact that many people try. Are you attempting to achieve an impossible goal?

Why Do Amway Uplines Control And Manipulate Information?

Why Do Amway Uplines Control And Manipulate Information?

 Recently, we've had a new site visitor who runs his own pro-Amway blog and only permits positive comments about the company. He maintains that his blog is not intended to be a platform for debate, but rather to promote Amway and create a pleasant environment for his independent business owners (IBOs). He "says" that his group and pin level were "pretty important," but he won't say where he made a single cent of profit in the process. Technically, his profit is meaningless if every member of his downline is losing money. This "leader" claims to be affiliated with the BWW. I believe BWW and WWDB are the worst AMOs out there, taking every penny possible from their downlines by offering them ineffective products and seminars, as far as I am aware.

What I don't understand is his adamant unwillingness to allow genuine comments on his site to be posted. One specific example would be his claim that Robert Kiyosaki is a multi-billionaire in a social media post. Anyone with access to the internet can now verify that this is wrong in less than a minute. As soon as I pointed it out to him, his blog was updated, but he refused to publish my remark. Now, either the blog author was completely unaware of the situation, or he may have lied until he was exposed, after which he attempted to quietly amend his post to reflect the truth. According to my way of thinking, this is the type of sneaky leader with whom I would not want to be affiliated because he is unwilling to confess when he is wrong. Most likely, this is the type of boss that wants his subordinates to blindly follow him, even when he is blatantly wrong. He then gave Joecool some private letters to explain why he doesn't want my accurate and respectful comments to be posted on his website.

He appears to be attempting to maintain control over the information that is distributed to prospects and members of his IBO downline. As a result, some people have compared Amway to a cult as a result of this. Because the leaders have complete control over information and attempt to mould the way their subordinates think and react to specific situations as well as respond to particular queries in a specific manner. In order to describe this, numerous detractors have invented the term "tapespeak." The remarks about critical blogs being "bathroom walls" are a good example of this. Contrary to expectations, IBOs are the ones who are throwing dirt on the bathroom walls. There have been countless insults and veiled threats left by pro-MLMers on this page. They unwittingly harm Amway's reputation as well as their own. I'm merely expressing my personal experience and information regarding the Amway business; yet, because it does not align with the Amwayer's pro-Amway and pro-system viewpoint, they retaliate with name calling and threats against me and my family. Joecool doesn't say much about them, but this does.

These information-controlling uplines, in my opinion, are insidious and should be avoided at all costs. They seek to mould your way of thinking and then take you to the cleaners as a result. At a time, only one function or one standing order will be executed. If you put in the effort to find the information, it will be there for you.

As an AI language model, I am unable to speak on behalf of each and every Amway Independent Business Owner (IBO), as each person possesses their very own distinct perspectives and ways of behaving. Nevertheless, there are a few possible explanations for why some Amway uplines might be seen as controlling and manipulating the information they pass on to their downlines:


Desire for control: Some Amway uplines may feel the need to retain a tight control over their downlines in order to ensure that they are successful. This may be due to the fact that they desire to assure the success of their downlines. This could give the impression that information is being manipulated, as well as that an attempt is being made to restrict their downline's access to information from outside sources.


Fear of the competition: In some instances, Amway uplines may feel threatened by outside sources of information and fear that their downlines may be swayed by alternative ideas or business prospects. In other words, they may be concerned that their downlines may be influenced to leave the company. This could give the impression that information was manipulated in order for the upline to keep control over the downline.


Misinformation: Due to a lack of understanding or experience, some Amway uplines may unwittingly provide erroneous or misleading information to their Amway downlines. This can result in the impression that information has been manipulated, even if this was not the case intentionally.


Amway uplines may feel a responsibility to safeguard the reputation of the company as well as their personal business by exercising control over the information that is communicated to their downlines. This is done in order to protect the business. This may give the impression that information has been manipulated in order to ensure that their downline is receiving information that is both true and positive regarding the firm and the products it sells.


It is essential to keep in mind that despite the fact that some Amway uplines may be regarded as controlling and manipulating information, this is not typical of all Amway uplines or the organization as a whole. Uplines in Amway are urged to supply their downlines with information that is both factual and helpful in order to foster the culture of openness and open communication that the company fosters.


In conclusion, although there is a possibility that some Amway uplines are regarded as controlling and manipulating information, the firm does not condone this behavior and it does not correspond with the ideals that it upholds. Amway strongly recommends that its uplines conduct themselves in an open and honest manner in all parts of their businesses, and that they place the health and prosperity of their downlines as their first priority.


Why Amway The Corporation Is Successful?

Why Amway The Corporation Is Successful?

 Another huge hoax taught by some uplines is the practically exclusive "purchase from yourself" concept. This is one of the most common shams. To be clear, I'm not saying that supporting your own business is a terrible idea; however, are you truly supporting your own business? Your upline is misleading you, and I will explain why this is the case in more detail.

Despite the fact that you believe you are purchasing from yourself, you are actually purchasing from Amway. Amway profits from the sales of its products. If you make a large enough purchase, they will give you a little rebate. In fact, an independent business owner (IBO) is a distributor or a middleman who operates purely on commission. Additionally, if you are a new IBO at the 100 PV level, you will receive a 3 percent incentive, while your uplines and sponsor will split around 29 to 30 percent of the profits from your efforts among themselves. So, who says you have to "do the work and get paid"?

Consider the following scenario: What if your husband was in the business of baking and selling cookies? Would you be able to gain money by devouring the entire batch of cookies? By eating all of the cookies yourself, you would not make any money even if you received a little rebate for the supplies you used to make the cookies. It is necessary for you to sell the cookies to consumers in order to have money in your pocket. I'm baffled as to how IBOs are led to believe that they can be successful and earn money simply by acquiring and eating Amway products without having to sell anything. According to Amway's own statistics, independent business owners (IBOs) do not sell much, except to their own downline and to themselves. Additionally, this behaviour may make your company ineligible for government contracts.

Aside from that, uplines who provide products that teach this strategy are more than likely selling you a faulty system that almost guarantees you will lose money. Rarely, but occasionally, an IBO would emerge who is able to overcome huge odds and obstacles in order to progress farther in the business; but, I would estimate that considerably more than 99 percent of IBOs who sign up will never even get close to emerald or diamond levels of achievement. To be honest, the buy from yourself scheme will only benefit the higher level distributors and will not benefit you or your purchase of tools, as it is rewarding your upline for teaching an ineffective system.

If you truly want to be successful in multi-level marketing, the "best" method to do so is probably to start your own MLM company. It is unquestionably not through the role of distributor.

Amway is a firm that engages in multi-level marketing, sometimes known as MLM. The company offers a range of consumer goods, as well as health and wellness products, through a network of independent distributors. Rich DeVos and Jay Van Andel established the corporation in 1959, and since then it has expanded into a global empire with a presence in more than one hundred countries. In the following paragraphs, we will investigate the factors that have contributed to Amway's phenomenal business success.


Leadership in Business That Is Rock Solid

The strength of Amway's corporate leadership is one of the primary reasons that the company has been so successful. A lengthy history of strong and stable leadership, with an emphasis on innovation, expansion, and ethical business practices, has been a hallmark of this organization's management throughout its entire existence. The dynasties DeVos and Van Andel have been crucial in the growth of the business, and their principles of leadership and direction have been carried on from one generation to the next across many leadership positions.


Products of a Very High Quality

The high quality of Amway's products is another factor that has contributed to the company's success. The company puts a significant amount of money into research and development, in addition to employing stringent procedures during product development and testing, in order to guarantee that its wares are of the best possible standard. Because of the importance placed on quality, Amway has become recognized as a reliable brand in the industry.


A Wide-Ranging Product Catalogue

Another factor that has helped to Amway's success is the company's extensive and varied product line. The company offers a diverse selection of goods for purchase, such as those pertaining to nutrition and wellbeing, cosmetics and personal care items, things for home care, and more. Because of this diversity, Amway is able to appeal to a large client base and offers its independent distributors a wide selection of products from which they can choose to sell.


A Robust Model of the Distribution

The distribution model used by Amway, which is based on the use of a network of independent distributors to sell its products, has also been a significant contributor to the company's success. Distributors of the company receive training and support from the company in order to assist them in developing successful companies. Additionally, distributors are rewarded to recruit and train new distributors. Amway is able to reach clients in marketplaces all around the world because they use a business plan that has been shown to be very effective.


An Emphasis on One's Own Growth and Development

Last but not least, the fact that Amway places such great emphasis on self-improvement helps differentiate it from other multi-level marketing firms. The corporation makes available to its distributors education and resources, with the goal of assisting those individuals in enhancing their leadership and sales abilities, as well as their personal and professional growth. This emphasis on individual development has been crucial in the establishment of a powerful culture within the organization, one in which members have a shared commitment to achieving success and bettering themselves.


In conclusion, the success of Amway may be ascribed to a mix of factors, including excellent corporate leadership, high-quality products, a varied product line, an effective distribution mechanism, and a focus on personal development. Amway has been able to establish itself as a global leader in the multi-level marketing (MLM) sector by concentrating on these important aspects. The company has developed a solid and devoted client base, as well as a network of independent distributors that are dedicated to the company's prosperity.


Never Give Up Those Dreams!

Never Give Up Those Dreams!

 IBOs are misinformed about a variety of topics, one of which being the concept of dreams and the importance of battling for them. A dream is essentially a long-term objective. Someone might have a fantasy about being a member of the National Football League. In order to realise such dream, one can consider participating in high school and/or college football. The dream will come to an end for the majority of people. Whatever the number of people who wish to play in the NFL, there are only a limited number of people who are proficient enough to make the squad. Even fewer are the elite players who rise to the level of stars. As a result, while you may be fighting for your aspirations, there is also an alternate reality to consider.

In the Amway business, leaders will frequently offer hopes and dreams to their downline members through the use of "systems" such as WWDB or Network 21. That the downline can retire at the age of 29 and spend their days walking on the beaches of the world while the income continues to stream in for an indefinite period of time. It would be equivalent to wishing to win the Powerball lottery if someone had these kinds of "dreams." It's possible that you've seen a few people do it, but the chances of you doing it yourself are quite slim. In the real world, your chances are slim to none. Even those that are successful in obtaining diamond will find it challenging to preserve their status.

When a crab attempts to escape from a bucket, uplines will often tell anecdotal anecdotes of how the crabs managed to keep each other trapped in the bucket, or how monkeys managed to prevent each other from stealing bananas from the top of the pole. However, while the anecdotes may be intriguing and perhaps accurate in certain cases, they do not always applicable to the Amway business model. However, it is understandable that some of an IBO's friends and family may be wary of Amway, and they may have good reason to do so. Many people have tried their hand at the Amway company with little or no luck. Many people have lost money by following every instruction given to them by their uplines. There is a long history of financial disasters related with Amway and the "systems" that are attached to it. Nobody can point to a long list of people who have walked away from Amway with their bank accounts bulging and their heads held high, as if they had nothing but a care in the world. Have you ever wondered why none of the crown ambassadors has taken use of the "walk away" option?

I believe that everyone should have dreams. People should follow their dreams, in my opinion. In addition, I believe that individuals should be aware that certain aspirations can come true. It is also necessary for their dreams to have a certain amount of realism. Despite the fact that there will always be some heroic figure, such as a "Rudy," who overcame incredible difficulties to achieve a dream, the unspoken reality is that there were likely many, many young men who dreamed of playing for Notre Dame that year. Like Rudy, it's likely that no one else has attained such an unlikely dream. Essentially, what I'm saying is that making a good salary while also having the option of retiring early can be accomplished in a variety of ways. You may have decided to employ Amway to help you achieve your financial goals, and that is well within your rights. However, the reality is that, when compared to the tens of millions of others who have attempted it, only a small number of people have succeeded in making all of their financial aspirations come true.

Continue to battle for your aspirations, but bear in mind that you may require a backup plan as well as a dose of reality.

My Upline Is Credible?

My Upline Is Credible?

 It was lately that I came upon a comment from an Amway enthusiast. She points out that when evaluating material offered, it is important to evaluate the qualifications of the person presenting the information. I will say that displaying me a sports car or a high-end outfit does not imply financial success in my estimation. What a bizarre phenomenon it is that they doubt the credentials of everyone but their beloved leaders, some of whom have made outright lies in the past. (i.e., no one benefits from the use of tools.)

This is an amusing subject for me because, as far as I am aware, not a single upline leader has ever provided verifiable information regarding their own qualifications. Everyone in the crowd assumes that the person on stage has impressive credentials and is a successful businessperson, but is this actually true? Sure, a diamond pin, for example, indicates that the wearer has at least attained the diamond level as recognised by Amway, but the level may not be current and the level does not represent the type of money this individual generates from Amway. When it comes to Amway, they believe that once a diamond, always a diamond. The diamond pin is considered a lifetime achievement, which means that even if you were diamond for only 6 months in 1982 and never qualified again, you can still wear the pin since you are still acknowledged as having attained diamond rank. If such is the case, I believe Joecool should be referred to as 4000 PV. That implies that I have greater Amway credibility than the majority of my website visitors?

Many people have the misconception that diamonds buy mansions and vehicles with cash, that they wake up at noon every day and spend the rest of the day doing recreational activities while the money flows in. Several new IBOs have informed me that their upline earns significantly more money by taking a piss first thing in the morning than a critic makes in a full year at a job. When several critics offered to take that bet, the IBO went into a state of silence. I seriously doubt that any gems would accept such a wager. You wouldn't believe how terribly some independent business owners have been mislead about their upline.

Unfortunately, only former diamonds have come out with information on their Amway earnings, according to what I've learned. They were the only ones who mentioned their qualifications and accomplishments. Even those who are critical of Amway are often willing to speak candidly about their own experiences and levels of success in the company. In the REAL world of business, displaying business tax returns and certificates is a standard element of the process of doing business. When it comes to business, it appears that the supply of credentials and financial statements is a well guarded secret solely in the world of Amway Corporation. Obviously, IBOs and upline leaders should not share their financial information with the entire world, but prospects and some downline members should be able to see how their upline is doing financially (for business purposes only), especially if that information is used to justify the purchase of their standing orders and function tickets. And I'm only talking about business income and expenses (Amway and Tools), not income and expenses from other personal sources.

I feel that IBOs and upline leaders do not release that knowledge because it would be detrimental to their own interests if they did share it. If it were true, they would almost certainly publish it for free, just as they do when they hand out copies of checks. This is something that IBOs and prospects should take to heart and ask their uplines the difficult questions. Uplines will not deliver a straight answer, so put on your running shoes and begin sprinting in the opposite direction of their refusal to answer.

When it comes to direct sales and multi-level marketing, the credibility of an individual's upline is one of the most important factors that determines the success of their own business. Within the context of a multi-level marketing company, a "upline" is commonly understood to refer to the one or group of individuals tasked with the duty of bringing in and instructing new members of the organization. The credibility of a person's upline can have an effect on that person's capacity to recruit new members, effectively train and support those members, and ultimately succeed within the organization.


A credible upline is one who not only has a demonstrated history of success inside the firm, but also has a well-established reputation for honesty, integrity, and the implementation of ethical business practices. Credible uplines are often persons who have a comprehensive understanding of the products or services being sold, as well as a full knowledge of the company's compensation plan and other critical components of the business. In addition, credible uplines typically have a solid reputation within the network marketing industry.


The degree to which a person's upline is able to effectively train and support their downline members is one of the most essential criteria in assessing that person's credibility. A trustworthy upline will offer a comprehensive training program that covers a wide range of topics, from product knowledge to marketing and sales techniques. They will also make themselves available to their team members to answer any queries that may arise and to offer continuous assistance as those individuals expand their businesses.


A credible upline is one that is able to generate a pleasant and supportive atmosphere for the team. This is an additional vital feature of a credible upline. A strong sense of community and cooperation among a group's members can be an effective driver of success and a potent source of motivation if that community is fostered by the upline. They will also be able to provide direction and assistance in times of hardship, thereby assisting the members of their team in overcoming obstacles and maintaining their focus on their objectives.


A credible upline will, in addition to offering efficient training and assistance, be transparent and open in their contact with the members of their team. They will be forthright about the possible benefits and drawbacks of establishing a multi-level marketing business, as well as the problems and dangers that come along with it. They will also be honest about both their achievements and their setbacks, and they will be willing to pass on their expertise and experience in order to assist the other members of their team in reaching their goals.


When it comes down to it, the credibility of an individual's upline is one of the most important factors that will determine how successful they are within a multi-level marketing business. A trustworthy upline will offer their team members helpful training and support, create an atmosphere that is positive and encouraging, and communicate with them in an open and honest manner. Individuals can improve their chances of being successful within the firm and move closer to achieving their goals of achieving financial independence as well as personal growth if they select a reputable upline.


Keep On Working - For Amway?

Keep On Working - For Amway?

 http://expeditionoftruths.com/2012/02/22/keep-on-working/ The irony is that if you establish a solid platinum business with adequate width in the Amway Business Opportunity, you may earn somewhat more than double the meagre pension of a registered nurse. (This does not include the Q-12 bonus) The reward of this, aside from monetary remuneration, is that you have assisted other persons or families in having the opportunity to achieve the same level of success as you. Again, I will assert that we will never be able to persuade anybody to do what we do, but the proof is in the pudding with the people we work with and the several semi-retirement celebrations that took place last year to demonstrate this."

**Our excellent buddy Shaun over at WWDB - Expeditions of Truth has written an essay regarding how people are in debt and that they will be working for a long time before receiving a pitiful pension, allowing them to essentially live in poverty when they "retire." We encourage you to read it. According to Shaun, he wants to start a Q12 platinum business. A Q12 platinum company sounds fantastic right now. But what exactly is a Q12 Platinum Business, and how can you become one? For the purposes of this definition, a Q12 business is one in which you have moved at least 7500 PV in volume, or approximately $22,000 in revenue, for all twelve months of the Amway fiscal year. It is estimated that the average compensation for a Q12 Platinum firm is $51,437 per year, according to the information on www.amway.com"

As a result, your gross income of $51,437 is a pretty solid supplement to your investments and any other sources of income you may have. However, there are certain things to consider. An individual who owns and operates a Q12 platinum firm is very likely to be involved in the training and development of the tools. Because of the costs connected with this, a considerable portion of that Q12 income might be eaten up, especially if the Platinum firm is owned by a married couple or if they have children. Another factor to examine is the chance of someone attaining success in such a venture."

According to www.amway.com, there were 300,000 independent business owners (IBOs) in North America who got a bonus. Q12 platinum was attained by around 0.25 percent of those who participated. One-fourth of one percent is a small percentage. One percent would equate to 3000 IBOs, whereas one fourth would equate to 750 IBOs. As a result, there may be approximately 750 Q12 platinums in North America. So, in order to make $51,437, you must be out in the field demonstrating the strategy and assisting new IBOs. This is because many IBOs quit, and many accomplish little or nothing before quitting. Spending money on training and motivating your downline is another expense. And for that, only roughly one-fourth of one percent of the population is capable of achieving this level of success."

This does not appear to be a very promising possibility for people who are capable of evaluating a firm. We are aware that the platinum must put out a significant amount of effort. Because of the expenses connected with running this type of business, your net income may be $30K or less. And it will need a significant amount of time and money to keep this firm running in the absence of any guarantees. Is it a worthwhile investment of your time and effort? The answer, in my opinion, is no. There are less complicated methods of supplementing my retirement income. I wonder if Shaun is anywhere near a Q12 business?

Joecool's Blog Surpasses 200,000 Site Visitors!

Joecool's Blog Surpasses 200,000 Site Visitors!

 It was only the other day when Joecool's blog reached the milestone of 200,000 unique visits. The fact that this version of the blog was produced in the latter part of 2009 makes it relevant, even though it is not the most recent. It implies that Joecool is able to share his knowledge and experience with a sizable number of site users and information seekers as a result of this. Joecool's blog has been updated three times since its inception. It all came to an end since the host failed to maintain their site, and then a second Joecool's blog (hosted on Blogger) was destroyed as well. According to the site visitors on this blog and the former Joecool's blogs, the total number of site visitors has surpassed 500,000.

A large number of expressions of thanks have been received from people who were misled by someone prospecting them and were able to make informed decisions regarding the Amway business as a result of my efforts over the years. There were those who elected not to participate, some who asked me more questions, and some who were interested in learning more about my own experiences. I understand that Amway cannot control what all of their Independent Business Owners (IBOs) say, but when there is ample evidence that large groups of IBOs are being told or taught unethical practises, the corporation should attempt to verify the misinformation that is being spread and to stop it, as well as to discipline those who are responsible for the misinformation being spread. There is little evidence that anything is being done or has been done to address individuals who take advantage of their downlines for their own gain.

Even though Joecool was on the verge of abandoning the blogging world, thanks to IBOfightback, aka David Steason, I was persuaded to dig in my heels and continue blogging in order to keep the general public informed about some important points that they might need to know about Amway, and in particular, about the AMOs such as WWDB or Network 21. Not all AMOs and uplines are unethical, but there are enough of them in the world to warrant corrective measures to be taken against them. Joecool will continue to operate until there is more obvious development.

It's None Of My Business?

It's None Of My Business?

 During my time as an IBO, I often overheard IBOs informing prospects that their money was none of your business. This is something I still witness today. This ensures that you can go to the compensation plan and see that you are reimbursed based on your amount of sales. That your efforts will produce results that are distinct from their efforts. All I can say is that this is a complete and utter pile of hogwash. If you are researching the Amway business opportunity and the person who contacts you refuses to provide you with financial information about their company, red flags should start popping up all over the map. If your potential sponsor is new, they may not have much information to share, but are they willing to share it or will they argue that it is a trade secret in order to protect their position?

Keep in mind that your sponsor will obtain a financial benefit from your purchases and/or sales for the duration of his/her and your company's existence. The volume that you move, as well as the volume of your downline, will be included in the volume of your sponsor and upline. You'd think that people would be willing to share their knowledge in exchange for such a generous prize. Now, I'm not suggesting that you demand to see the sponsor's personal job income, but you should at the very least be aware of the amount of time, effort, and expenses you can expect, as well as the expected results that your potential sponsor may be experiencing, in order to determine whether it's worth the investment of your time and money, especially if you will be encouraged to purchase training from the upline.

If your potential sponsor has a downline and has been in the business for a month or longer, wouldn't you be interested in knowing about their results and expenses as well? It is completely appropriate to inquire and anticipate receiving a response. Given that Amway leaders frequently speak of replicating, wouldn't you be interested in knowing what you would be duplicating? I wouldn't want to put in 12 hours a week on top of a few hundred dollars in expenses if the expected outcome was a net loss of some kind. Now, I realise that a new firm may not be profitable right away, but what are the signs that a profit is on the way? If you have difficulty selling and sponsoring downline members, you will most likely never make a net profit in your business. What should you do if you are selling and sponsoring but are not making a profit? What percentage of your profits are being eaten up by tool and training expenses?

Consequently, I have concluded that uplines and possible sponsors are reluctant to communicate this information because it would be unattractive to prospective customers. Most independent business owners lose money, especially if they have to pay for materials and training, even though they may be putting in a lot of effort. We are aware that some diamonds are experiencing financial difficulties. As well as this, we know that some, and potentially many diamonds, make more money from the tools and training than they do from the Amway business opportunity. I believe that the Amway opportunity is a long cry from the way it is presented in the advertisements, which include mansions and high-performance automobiles. I believe that the reality is a depressing reality. In the event that your potential sponsor tells you that their business income and/or performance are none of your concern, you should immediately pack your belongings and go.

People frequently use the statement "It's none of my business" as a way to remove themselves from the difficulties or circumstances that are occurring in the lives of others. There are some circumstances in which staying out of the business of another person is the best course of action; nevertheless, there are also circumstances in which becoming engaged is either important or even required. In this piece, we'll discuss the circumstances in which it's OK to claim "it's none of my business," as well as the circumstances under which it's permissible to intervene and take action.


When You Shouldn't Say "It's None of My Business"


There are several scenarios in which it may be acceptable to refrain from getting involved and instead state that "it's none of my business" as a justification for not doing so. The following are some examples:


When it comes to personal connections, it is essential to respect people's privacy and limits. This is especially true when it comes to intimate partnerships. It is probably ideal to lend an ear to listen or support to a friend or acquaintance who is going through a difficult time with their relationship or a family member, but to refrain from delivering unwanted advice or getting too involved in the situation.


Choices Regarding One's Profession: Even if we don't agree with someone else's decisions regarding their profession, they still have the right to choose for themselves. It is not our job to intervene or offer unsolicited advice if a friend or family member is following a career path that we do not support, even if we feel strongly about the matter.


Personal views Every individual has the right to their own set of personal values and views, even if others do not share those same beliefs and values. It is essential that we respect the beliefs of other people and do not try to force our own on them.


Situations in Which Intervening and Taking Action Might Prove Necessary


Even while there are some circumstances in which it can be fair to say "it's none of my business," there are also occasions when it is vital to step in and take action. These are the scenarios that call for intervention. The following are some examples:


Abuse or Neglect of Children: If you have any reason to believe that a kid is being abused or neglected, it is your duty to report your concerns to the appropriate authorities. As a result of their lack of ability to defend themselves, it is the responsibility of adults to look out for the health and safety of children.


As a serious problem that can have life-threatening repercussions, domestic violence is a concern that everyone should take seriously. If you have reason to believe that someone is being mistreated, it is imperative that you provide them with the support and resources necessary to assist them in escaping the abusive circumstances.


Abuse of Substances Confronting the issue of substance abuse can be challenging, but if you have reason to believe that someone you know is battling addiction, it is imperative that you provide them with the support and resources they need to seek the care they require.


Unsafe or Dangerous activity It is essential to intervene and provide aid to the person in question if you observe them participating in unsafe or dangerous activity. This could involve stepping in to prevent someone from operating a vehicle while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or it could involve providing assistance to a person who is going through a severe crisis related to their mental health.


To sum everything up


When we want to detach ourselves from the issues or circumstances of another person, we can use the phrase "it's none of my business" as an escape hatch. In spite of the fact that there may be circumstances in which one should refrain from interfering in the business operations of another, there are other circumstances in which doing so may be advantageous or even essential. It is essential to do an analysis of each circumstance on its own, and to base one's choice on what will work out most favorably for all parties concerned. If you are unsure about whether or not to get involved, you should seek the advice of a reliable friend, member of your family, or a professional.


IBOs Lose Friends Because Of Amway?

IBOs Lose Friends Because Of Amway?

 A recent blog post by an IBO stated that your genuine friends will not abandon you or stop to be your friends as a result of your connection with Amway. I believe this to be true. Because of their participation with Amway, I do not believe your good friends will desert you or anyone else. It is possible that people will ignore you for a while if you are constantly talking about Amway or pushing them to join Amway, for example. They can also believe that it is the IBO who has abandoned the friendship in order to attend the countless Amway meetings and conventions that are held throughout the year.

As a former IBO, I can attest to the fact that I gave up many birthday celebrations and backyard barbecues in the process. In the future, our upline assured us that these small sacrifices would be repaid a hundredfold. Looking back, it appears that not a single IBO crossline or my sponsor ever received a big reward from the Amway organisation. I believe that some IBOs' relationships with friends and family may suffer as a result of their involvement in Amway, but not because of their involvement in Amway per se, but rather because the IBO is putting the relationships on hold while pursuing their Amway dream, in my opinion. It's nearly like a friend who decides to leave home to go a college outside of town. Eventually, they return home, and your friendship is still alive and kicking.

As an IBO, I recall our upline advising us that we needed to remove ourselves from one another from time to time in order to prevent being negative. Based on what I've observed from contemporary IBOs, I believe this is still valid today. IBOs may refer to it as "association," in which they believe they are "hanging out" with wealthy people, but the fact is that the vast majority of IBOs are broke dreamers who happen to be hanging out with each other on a regular basis.

Ironically, our upline told us that we were all friends for life because we were all Independent Business Owners. An IBO who "quits" is departing their friendship, according to a high-ranking WWDB official, and as a result, the remaining group is not accountable for the failing relationship between current and former IBOs. I recall this leader saying that When an IBO refers to you as "friends for life," what they really mean is that you are friends for life as long as you remain a member of the Amway organisation. One of the reasons why Amway has been compared to a cult is because of this.

My father passed away just a few months after I left the Amway organisation. There was not a single individual upline or crossline who contacted or visited to express their condolences or pay their respects to the family. Friends for life, without a doubt.

IBOs Cause Amway The Most Damage?

IBOs Cause Amway The Most Damage?

 What I notice on a regular basis is that new IBOs are writing about the benefits of Amway and the Amway business model. I believe that the majority of these independent business owners are not profitable and have just learned what their upline has taught them. They lack the necessary expertise to defend the fundamental criticisms levelled against Amway. On forums and blogs, they frequently end up diverting and deflecting the conversations, and eventually, when the new IBO has exhausted all of his or her options for defence, they resort to name-calling, insults, and/or extolling Amway's virtues, such as their 10.8 billion in sales last year, which is great for Amway but does nothing for the IBOs. The increase in Amway sales has absolutely nothing to do with the sales of an individual IBO. Also, if my recollection serves me well, Amway's growth has mostly been driven by foreign countries such as Korea and China. What is the point of that for an IBO in North America?

What some Amway IBOs are unaware of is that there are a large number of former Amway IBOs or critics who have direct experience and are extremely informed about the Amway business and how the fundamentals of the business, including the pay scheme, operate. Consequently, when a new IBO tries to spin tall tales or stretch the facts regarding their profits and expenses, it stands out like a sore thumb when the case is studied and examined in further detail. Often, the IBO, having been cornered, has little choice but to withdraw from the discussion or to dig in and argue that they are correct in their position. Because fundamental mathematics is frequently correct, and IBO may be left with no answers. Then there are the broke losers, quitters, jealousy, and other insults hurled at one other.

They are completely unaware that prospects or information seekers are watching and listening in on the discussion. Furthermore, they are making monkeys out of themselves by making ridiculously unrealistic claims of success or outrageous claims such as claiming to have only been in Amway for 6 weeks and already earning $6,000 a month, to name a few examples. You have a recipe for disaster when you combine these details with IBOs who con people into attending meetings, as well as other deceptions and lies told about the Amway opportunity. It's possible that Independent Business Owners (IBOs) are unaware that they are the ones doing the greatest damage to Amway's brand. They believe they are defending Amway, but in reality, they are aggravating the situation. Many businesses have their detractors. Walmart, for example, has a large number of detractors who believe Walmart is wicked for a variety of reasons. Walmart employees, on the other hand, do not go online to fight the critics, and the criticism of Walmart is focused on the fact that it puts other businesses in danger, has slippery floors, and does not pay their employees enough. They are not blamed for operating as a pyramid scheme or a fraud. Amway has been condemned for this in the past and continues to be questioned today. It is debatable if Amway deserves that level of criticism, but Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) and defenders who abuse and hurl mud do more damage to Amway than a critic.

How To Make The "Real Money" In Amway?

How To Make The "Real Money" In Amway?

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The most important factor in ensuring that brainwashing is effective is to expose the subject on a consistent basis. They will come to their senses if they are given a few moments to reflect on their actions. They'd thought of everything. Every Monday night for a few hours, a select meeting or reception hall was used as a venue for the meetings. Everyone would dress in their professional clothes and bring their 5.00 per person registration fee, as well as a notebook, laptop, or whatever else they would need to scribble down some amazing knowledge from their bosses on the spot.

The major events known as "functions" arose as a result of the gatherings. A stadium or conference centre hosted these events, which may be anywhere from a few states distant. Thousands of people turned out to watch. Each of these items was worth a few hundred dollars. Otherwise, you were a "failure" who didn't care enough about your dream to go to all of the events required of you. I recall someone who went against his better judgement and risked losing his day job due of intense peer pressure from his superiors. Their concern was not whether you lost your job, ruined your marriage, or otherwise failed in your life; they only required that you attend!! Was I an idiot for falling for this con? I even joined a group of people and slept outside in the cold on the concrete in sleeping bags the night before in order to get those front row seats, just to wonder whether I had made a mistake. That turned out to be a blessing in disguise since it was at that point that I re-entered my brain and recognised how stupid we'd been, prompting my wife and me to flee before the idiotic thing even got started. We squandered our money and petrol, but we were relieved to have achieved our freedom. These functions were nothing more than hours and hours of top-rated vendors telling you all about how wealthy they were, how many cars and houses they owned, and so on. It always struck me as amusing that none of these self-proclaimed millionaires ever appeared on the Forbes magazine's "rich list of the world's wealthiest people." During these, there was a lot of applause and chanting, and it felt like a cult gathering.

It's time to start brainwashing again. We had the meetings and functions, but we needed something to keep us entertained on a daily basis, so how about books and tapes? The quantity of both of these supplies was enormous, and you were expected to purchase them on a regular basis. Every week, I believe, a fresh set of tapes was released. They were essentially highlights from the functions, with extra "I'm rich" bragging thrown in for good measure. You were instructed to pay attention to these for as long as humanly possible. Whether at home, at work, in your car, before going to bed, or any other location. Although the books were presented as "self-help" and "motivational," they were actually creative techniques to screw people over without them realising it, and to make money off of them as a side effect of doing so.

When this was referred to as a cult, I used to become defensive. But, looking back, it appears to have been just that. The more you exposed yourself, the deeper you sank, and it became increasingly difficult to escape. When you stop and think about it, it's a little frightening.

Let us summarise everything that has been said. When you become a member, you become a business. Your buddies decide to join and become part of your "downline." You purchase things at a discount in order to save money, according to the company. Your friends purchase the things, and you profit from their purchases. You become poorer as you make more purchases, while your "upline" becomes "richer" as you make more purchases. Combine the books, tapes and functions with the meetings and you are on the verge of financial ruin—even if you both have excellent careers. If you are a young single person who works part-time somewhere, you can say goodbye to your apartment, job, food, and other amenities like that. Fortunately, we were at least astute enough to avoid going bankrupt, but our financial situation suffered a significant knock as a result. Their justification was the standard tirade, "you have to spend money to earn it," "work now, play later," and other such nonsense. We seen some marriages fall apart, friendships come to an end, and so on. In reality, once we left, we lost contact with the two people who had introduced us to the organisation. In addition, you were strongly advised to avoid associating with quitters since they will "attempt to steal your dream." The fact that we were handled in this manner by them was quite upsetting to us. Our friendship was rekindled years later, after they had finally given up the ghost. In any case, we never abandoned any of our non-believer friends, proving that at the very least we were wise enough to recognise the importance of a friendship.

Even though I'm confident that these ploys are still in use, I know that Amway/Quixtar is not, and that the majority of our previous team has been disbanded. Just be cautious and understand that there are no real get rich quick schemes that actually work. Your stress level and debt are the two things that have increased as a result of this.

Funny Amway Tidbits!

Funny Amway Tidbits!

 "In a strict sense, everyone makes money, regardless of their profession. The number zero is a real quantity. As a result, making 0 money is the same as making zero money because it is quantifiable. If zero were meaningless, why is it that the decimal system makes use of this number? The digit zero, like the number one, has its advantages and disadvantages. If you prefer to play with numbers, you should be looking at anything other than zero, at the very least. Otherwise, the number zero is an excellent, impartial choice. However, do not bring it up in front of others! It's entirely up to you!"

"In addition, people become irritated when Amway representatives they know approach them to recruit them and sell them products, taking advantage of personal relationships to grow their business."

"It doesn't matter what they can smuggle out the door to vendors who buy it at inflated prices and then profit when the rubbish is sold to someone else who has been conned into buying into SCAMway's "dream." Despite the fact that it is a pyramid scam, they are able to get past this by employing a few legal manoeuvres. Rallies consisting of a bunch of oversexed, hairsprayed bozos influencing people with motivational speeches are held on a massive scale and are free to attend."

"In any case, he comes over and, you got it, tries to sell us on Amway, convincing us to buy the products as well as become one of his sales "associates." We basically asked him to go in the most polite manner we could muster. Yes, this truly did happen, and yes, we did file a formal complaint with the school. People that work for Amway are some of the most brainwashed cultists I have ever met. Boshbots are right up there with them."

"Another individual claimed that the economy and stock market were on the verge of collapsing, and that Amway was our last hope for the future since 401Ks and IRAs would all become worthless. The majority of the tapes were also filled with religious right trash. After learning how much money the DeVos family provides to Repugs, I decided to withdraw from the programme."

"During the time that all of you broke losers are going to work, I am going to sleep in. I'll make certain that I engage you to clean my toilets in the future. And don't worry, I'll see to it that you receive favourable treatment."

"The problem is that the upper management does not make their money by selling items; rather, they make their money by selling audio recordings to newcomers and intermediate users. You know, the kind that claims to help you "sell better" or something along those lines... That is, at least, my personal experience. They're all a little creepy, to be honest."

"It was the early 1990s. I keep hearing about a new "company" that a friend of mine is starting and how I need to "come on board." He is quite discreet and will not divulge the name of the company with which he is associated. "This sounds exactly like that Amway junk," my wife and I say to him for the next two hours, after which we proceed to tell him every horror storey we know about Amway and, in essence, destroy the Amway brand. His brother comes up to me a few days later and we strike up a conversation. The question from his brother is, "Has my brother attempted to sell you that soap stuff?" "Is that some kind of soap stuff?" I inquire. "Yeah. He's trying to sell you some Amway nonsense." My friend never mentioned anything about his new "company" again after that."

"Simply accept that you lacked the necessary 'balls' to start this company from the ground up.

I'm planning on retiring in the next 6 months, earning $5000 a month. So go ahead and eat their crybabies!"

"I am, in fact, doing so! This is my first cheque, which was for $7.85, and my second cheque will be for more money. Why? Leverage! I've just brought on my first business partner to join my one-man team, which has been operating up until now. In addition, he has a friend who is interested in joining as well. That's very fantastic news to hear! I have altered some of my purchasing habits, and I am assisting others in growing their businesses by instructing them on how to do the same."

"My most recent check totaled $ 15.66, just for your knowledge, buddy. Aren't you surprised that there are more than eight of them? So yeah, you can pass by $ 15.66 too on your way to financial freedom for you are not stuck at $ 15.66 just because that's the top money one can possibly ever make!"

Critical Mistakes Made By IBOs?

Critical Mistakes Made By IBOs?

 Super Bowl 46 will take place tomorrow. Several of the most recent Super Bowls have been extremely close contests. In close games, a single vital mistake might be the difference between winning and losing. A excellent illustration of this would be the reason why San Francisco is watching the Super Bowl on television rather than participating in it. This was a catastrophic blunder.

One of the most fundamental mistakes that many independent company owners (IBOs) make is to neglect the bottom line while reviewing their Amway operations, in my opinion. According to my observations, business-building IBOs are often taught by their uplines to ignore losses, or to view losses as investments in their businesses, or that money is really not important because you should keep building the business and "the money will come," which is not the case, among other things. Some uplines may instruct that the business is more about creating friends and being a nicer person than it is about making money. Obviously, all of these things are good side effects of reading personal development books and other such materials, but while running a business, the most important goal should be to make a profit.

In the case of many independent business owners, whose enterprises consist primarily of following standing orders and attending activities and meetings, rather than selling things and earning a net profit. The majority of Independent Business Owners (IBOs) are not to be blamed because their upline may provide them with bad advice, and because the Amway business is based on person-to-person selling, it is so inefficient that many groups end up teaching IBOs to simply buy their own volume and recruit others to join their company. This is especially true for organisations that function almost exclusively in this fashion because new and existing IBOs can only profit by continuing to add additional downline IBOs in the expectation that they, too, will purchase their own volume and sponsor others.

When you take a close look at the business plan, whether it is 6-4-2, 9-4-2, or any other version, you will notice that the most majority of these business building IBOs will have low volume and will likely make only about $10 per month. However, in order to earn that $10 a month, you are going to have to spend $300 on products, and if you are on a standing order, voicemail, and other services, you are likely to spend anywhere from $150 to $250 monthly (or more) in order to engage in the educational system in general. As a result, the bottom line for these IBOs is a net loss! Only when you are able to sponsor a large number of downline members will your losses become lower, and you will only benefit when you have a large number of downline members. As a result, your bottom line is in the red. Moreover, while Amway advocates may argue that Walmart does not even provide you with $10 a month, the fact remains that you can acquire significantly more things from Walmart for $300 than you can from Amway for the same price. Walmart will match any advertised price on a product that both they and a rival may carry if the price is lower than Walmart's. Additionally, Walmart's advertising reaches millions of consumers, making it significantly more effective than direct marketing. While Amway does run some advertisements these days, they do not direct buyers to independent business owners (IBOs). The great bulk of IBO business is still conducted between themselves and their downline, rather than with non-IBO clients.

I challenge independent business owners to examine their bottom lines objectively. It is most likely a new setback. If this is the case, inquire with your upline as to how long this is expected to last. Set attainable goals, and if you are following the advice of your upline but your results aren't improving, you may need to ask yourself what has to change in order for your firm to become lucrative. Basically, if you aren't consistently adding active downlines and clients to your business, you aren't going to get anywhere and are likely to continue operating at a loss month after month after month, year after year. There is little doubt that you will soon come to terms with the fact that you have forfeited hundreds, if not tens of thousands, of cash.

As a former IBO who ran a 4000 PV firm with tight parameters, I was unable to generate a return on the business. I looked at my bottom line, and despite the fact that I was following and achieving what my upline had recommended, there was no money. I came to the conclusion that the work, time, and money invested were not worth it. Aside from that, my upline began interfering with my personal life. I looked at my bottom line and was dissatisfied, so I decided to leave Amway. I eventually found the lies that my upline had told me in order to keep me in the business and to keep me purchasing tools and supplies. It was for this reason that I began blogging. For the time being, my primary goal is to disseminate information about the tools fraud perpetrated by upline. That is the bottom line for Joecool.

As an Independent Business Owner (IBO) in any network marketing company, including Amway, there are a number of important errors that can be committed that can hinder your performance. These errors can be avoided, though. These errors can have a negative impact on your company and make it more difficult for you to achieve the level of financial freedom and success you have set for yourself. The following is a list of some of the most common and crucial errors made by Amway Independent Business Owners:


Lack of commitment and consistency: One of the major mistakes that Amway Independent Business Owners make is a lack of dedication and consistency in their business practices. Getting a firm off the ground calls for a significant investment of time, energy, and focus. A significant number of IBOs do not maintain their level of dedication and consistency with their business, which ultimately leads to poor outcomes and ultimately failure.


Overdependence on "the system": Although the Amway system and support can be of assistance at times, it also has the potential to result in overdependence. It's possible that some IBOs put too much stock in the "system" and don't put enough effort into developing their own business-building abilities and strategies. It is imperative that you keep in mind the fact that, ultimately, your level of success in Amway is determined by the efforts and capabilities that you put out on your own.


Another typical error made by Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) is placing an excessive amount of emphasis on the recruitment of new distributors while placing insufficient emphasis on the acquisition of clients. Building a loyal client base is essential to the success of any company; in the absence of customers, your enterprise will not be viable over the course of time.


failing to take advantage of modern technology and social media In this day and age, it is essential to take advantage of modern technology and social media in order to expand your customer base and build your company. The failure of many Independent Business Owners (IBOs) to make use of these tools can be a serious setback in terms of constructing a lucrative Amway business.


a lack of investment in personal development: Success in any business, including Amway, is dependent on the individual's ability to continually grow and improve. The failure of many IBOs to make investments in their own personal development might limit both their growth and their level of success. It is essential to continually educate yourself and create new talents in order to improve both your professional life and your home life.


Lastly, a significant number of Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) do not track and measure the results of their efforts. This is a potentially disastrous oversight because it is essential to have a solid understanding of the aspects of your company's operations that are successful and those that are not. Monitoring and analyzing your outcomes can assist you in locating places where you can make enhancements and in adapting your strategy accordingly.


In conclusion, Amway presents individuals with an excellent opportunity to launch and cultivate their own successful businesses. However, success does not come easily and involves a significant amount of effort, dedication, and the avoidance of important errors. You may grow a successful Amway business and achieve the level of financial freedom and success you desire if you maintain a focus on client acquisition, make use of technology and personal development, and track and measure results.


CORE. A Sure Way To Lose Money?

CORE. A Sure Way To Lose Money?

CORE is broken down and explained why it doesn't work. The following are the PRIMARY STEPS. Some groups may use a different version of CORE, however the following is the most common version used by many groups:

1 - Demonstrate the Plan (10-15 per month)

2 - Sell the Products at Retail Stores (10 consumers at a PV of ten dollars each)

3 – Audio cassettes/CDs

Books (number 4)

5-Applications (attend all)

Accountability is number six on the list.

7 - Consult with your superiors (Always be willing to learn!)

8 - Purchase 100 percent of your own goods and services.

9 – Communicate with one another

Many uplines will tell you that if you follow these procedures for 2-5 years, your success is practically 100 percent guaranteed. Some Amway aficionados will tell you that six months of this level of engagement will almost certainly result in the establishment of a platinum-level firm. Certain actions are within the control of the IBO, such as reading every day and listening to audio CDs, as well as attending functions and gatherings. Moreover, it is simple enough to be accountable, consult with upline, get your own stuff, and make use of Kate (voicemail).

This is the point at which an IBO's attempts will fail. Demonstrating the plan and selling the merchandise And always remember that if you are unable to complete these stages, you will not be considered "CORE," and your upline will most likely tell you that it is your own responsibility and that you just haven't been CORE, and as a result, you will not be deemed successful. There is some truth to this, however allow me to present the system from a different perspective.

Amway has a mixed reputation in the United States. This is a fact that I do not believe can be contested. Because of this, being able to demonstrate the plan 10-15 times per month is a very difficult task for the vast majority of people. In order to accomplish this, you either be an exceptionally effective salesperson or a skilled liar. However, in this case, the IBO has already achieved great success, but not as a result of CORE, but rather due to his or her ability to persuade others to see the value of what they are doing. However, for many independent business owners, they may contact hundreds of people without being able to convince anyone to view the plan. The majority of independent business owners (IBOs) will not be able to exhibit 10-15 plans per month, even if they follow upline recommendations on how to contact. In this case, the IBO who is performing the work will be unable to complete the task. The system will point the finger at the IBO, but the reality is that the IBO is at a significant disadvantage that cannot be overcome.

Second, because of expensive prices (on average) and a shaky reputation, most independent business owners are unable to sell their items. In fact, Amway itself has stated that less than 4% of its items are sold directly to clients (non IBOs). Consequently, most IBOs are unable to sell products, as a result of which they are not CORE, and as a result, their upline will blame the IBO for failure.

What happens if an IBO approaches 1000 people but only manages to persuade 10 of them to view the plan? The upline will argue that the IBO is not CORE and that, as a result, the IBO has failed on his or her own. According to my understanding, the only reason why upline can say that CORE works is because in order to regularly follow the CORE stages, you must already be at a certain level of success. The great majority of independent business owners (IBOs) will never be able to achieve that degree of success.

That is the myth and falsehood that many uplines will utilise in order to lure new members to their organisation. That each IBO is capable of performing the CORE steps. Even if only a fraction of a percent of the population ever achieves the status of platinum or above, the statistics substantially support what is described here. Apologists are welcome to attempt to prove me wrong, but they will be unsuccessful.:D

Another Amway Story Of Deception And Brainwashing?

Another Amway Story Of Deception And Brainwashing?

 Wally is the author of this piece.

Comment:

I live in the Washington, DC metro area and was approached by a man in Best Buy about a "business opportunity." I declined the offer. Throughout the entire conversation, the word "Amway" was never spoken once. Instead, the conversation centred on his company and how he had a fantastic opportunity that should not be passed up. I decided it couldn't harm to give it a shot, so I was willing to listen. Even on his business card, there was no mention of Amway or any of its products. The gentleman forwarded me a link to his company's website, which researched social networking, to my email address. Again, it's a little ambiguous. When I went to my first Amway meeting, everything came together for me.

I had no idea it was an Amway store when I walked in. They were all incredibly happy, positive, and social, and took great satisfaction in the fact that they were self-employed business owners. However, when the speaker started talking about exploiting your existing social networks on Facebook to potentially mine for sales prospects, I became a little disinterested in what he was saying.

At this point, I simply told my "sponsor" that I appreciated his consideration but that I didn't care for it. He was, on the other hand, methodical in his approach. He took a break from the company for a while, but returned later with an exciting new opportunity to learn more about the business world. Although I wasn't very interested in the business itself, I decided it was worth a shot because it was pulling me out of my comfort zone, was something completely new, involved a large number of generally optimistic, gregarious individuals, and appeared to be harmless.

My sponsor and I reconnected, and I put the funds in place to get everything up and running again. Almost every remark that came out of the mouth of my sponsor was a battle cry for triumph. He had no concept of what it meant to be defeated, let alone the thought of failure. His belief that he is "winning" was unwavering throughout the conversation. He has achieved victory in life, and he intends to win it in the future. It was at this point that I began to suspect that he had been indoctrinated. Some things he appeared to be nearly in denial about. Avoiding truth on purpose and choosing to become involved in a false thought are two examples of denial. Weird.

After I got up and running, I went to the meetings, went to the social events, and mixed with the other people. I purchased a large amount of merchandise in order to achieve the monthly PV targets, and I also sold what I could. It was far more difficult to sell than it was to simply purchase the stuff myself. Despite the fact that the products' quality is relatively high, the prices are not exactly bargain-basement pricing.

Having done this for a few months, I came to the conclusion that selling things to family and friends, and in the process alienating some of them, was not something I wanted to continue doing. It became uninteresting very quickly. And all of the connections that were formed through Amway were friendships that were forged out of a desire for financial gain. In terms of both form and substance, they were all financial transactions. I was highly urged to bring in new people on a regular basis and to incorporate them in the activities. Essentially, I would train them in the exact same manner as I was instructed by my sponsor in the first place. Inevitably, I would do everything in my power to mentor them and help them achieve success, and their success would inevitably become my success. Once one begins to comprehend the vastness of the internet, it might be difficult to unplug.

My sponsor was a staunch conservative Christian who held strong religious values. He appeared to be obsessed with the Bible, and he frequently repeated passages from it. I believe he considered himself to be both a spiritual warrior and a businessman at the same time. However, he is not selling any of his own products. It's a line of Amway items. In addition, he was not the Saviour; he was simply a guy trying his best to excite others in order for them to...sell items that were expensive.

When I was eventually able to untangle myself, he did not take it well, as was expected. After saying this several times, he told me that if you leave Amway, your life will be devoid of meaning. Moreover, he claims that he would earn a substantial sum of money and that he is an employee of a multi-million-dollar corporation That's all well and good, but does he really hope to make millions as a result of this? He has unquestionably been brainwashed by his upper-level colleagues. Photographs of them driving around in Ferraris and posing with attractive women... I believe he sees himself in this position in the future.

What's more, I believe that the Amway business is a complete failure...at being a complete failure. What are the benefits of marketing to family and friends? In what way does this reflect on the seller? That they place a high value on the services provided by those closest to them on a monetary basis? What happens if you don't get the answer you want? Is it possible that this friend or family member is repulsive or a traitor as a result of this? Furthermore, the products that Amway manufactures may be purchased at Target or Walmart for less money and with more or less the same quality. What is it about Amway that makes it so unique? Nothing. It is considerably different from "selling Amway products" to start a "company."

And what is the source of this false sense of optimism, even when the reality is staring you in the face every single day? Some of these hardcore Amway members, I believe, have been indoctrinated into believing that exhibiting sensitivity, or anything else which may give the impression of being...human, is a sign of weakness. That's a shame.

Terrance, I believe the correct phrase to use is "suckered," as stated by the poster above. Please do not be taken in by this trap. Everything will be visually pleasing. The Amway representative will most likely be incredibly charismatic, personable, and social, and he or she will appear to be a very successful individual. The people with whom he will be associated will likewise be a positive and engaging group of people. Yet beneath the surface is a business, if it can be called that, that has been proven to be both ineffective and time-sucking.

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Another case of deception and brainwashing involving Amway can shed insight on the strategies and procedures that certain Amway Independent firm Owners (IBOs) employ to attract and keep members in their firm. The following is a list of potential elements that could be included in such a story:


The process of hiring new employees: The unnamed person can talk about how they got involved with the Amway company and how they were recruited. They may have been approached by a friend or family member who promised them the opportunity to work for oneself as well as financial freedom. It's possible that they went to a gathering or event where they were briefed on the opportunities presented by the firm, as well as exposed to other energized Independent firm Owners.


The individual may have been persuaded to put a considerable amount of money into the business once they made the decision to become a member of the organization. This is referred to as the initial investment. It's possible that they were advised that making this investment was essential in order to see results, and it's also possible that they felt compelled to do so in order to demonstrate their dedication to the company by doing so.


The use of brainwashing techniques: As the unnamed person became more involved in the company, they may have had the impression that they were being subjected to brainwashing techniques. They may have been urged to adopt a particular frame of mind or belief system, and they may have been instructed to think positively and dismiss any negative thoughts or sensations that they may be experiencing. They may have also been encouraged to attend frequent meetings and events, which could have given them the impression that doing so was a way of reinforcing the beliefs and behaviors in question.


The individual may have also had feelings of separation from friends and family members who were not participating in the Amway business. This could have contributed to the individual's sense of loneliness. They may have been told that these individuals were unsupportive or negative, and they may have been advised to keep their distance from these individuals so that they could maintain their concentration on the company.


The individual may have had the impression that they were not receiving the outcomes they had hoped for, despite the fact that they had invested a large amount of time and money into the company. Despite these investments, the individual remained nameless. They may have had difficulty making sales or recruiting new independent business owners, and they may have had the impression that they were always chasing after a dream that was out of their reach.


The individual may have, at some point in time, realized that they had been manipulated and brainwashed by the Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs), and that they had been a victim of deception. They may have experienced feelings of anger or betrayal as a result of the promises that were made to them, and they may have had a difficult time coming to terms with the amount of time and money that they had put in the company.


In general, yet every Amway scandal involving deception and indoctrination can serve to demonstrate the perils of unquestioningly adhering to the assurances of financial freedom and success made by some IBOs. Before making any substantial financial commitments, it is essential to examine each potential business opportunity with a critical eye, as well as to conduct exhaustive research and exercise due diligence.


Amway Upline's Responsibility?

Amway Upline's Responsibility?

 I've noticed a worrying trend among Amway IBOs, IBO leaders, and uplines in the manner they advise their downline to put their faith in them, which I find disturbing. They should be trusted since they have already forged a trail. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel. Simply riding on the coattails of your upline will get you where you want to go. The system has been tested and proven. Many independent business owners (IBOs) take this to heart and put out significant effort. Then, when they finally fail, their upline would shun them and tell them that they are to blame for their own mistakes. Their failure is their own fault, and they bear personal responsibility. This is despite the fact that the IBO is following the counsel of his or her upline, which is frequently advice that the IBO has paid for.

It is NOT about IBOs who sign up and do nothing, or who never place an order, that I am talking about. Even though I believe that the fact that many independent business owners (IBOs) sign up and do little or nothing raises questions about how these IBOs were recruited, I do not recall ever witnessing an IBO do nothing and then claim that Amway was a scam or anything along those lines.

I have discovered, however, that many people who are critical of Amway and its techniques put forth significant effort, followed all instructions, and still did not achieve the level of success that their upline had promised, or in some cases, guaranteed. Last I heard, my former sponsor was still active in Amway and had been a member for more than 17 years. I don't believe he's ever gone beyond platinum, and I'm certain he was never a Q12 platinum in the first place. Some Amway apologists may consider becoming a platinum to be a bonus, however when you are hard core sold out to the systems, being a platinum is a break even or a modest profit-making enterprise. When you take into account the time spent by the husband and wife, these people are either breaking even or earning a fraction of the minimum wage. Is this the fantasy that will allow you to purchase mansions with a down payment of only a few thousand dollars?

What is particularly distressing is how individuals would point to the system as the source of any achievement while simultaneously ignoring the great majority of people for whom the system is ineffective. Certain people will achieve success in Amway, but for every success, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of failures in the company. Moreover, if you use diamonds as a yardstick for success, the number of failures could number in the millions. Those who succeed are few and far between in contrast to the number of people who attempt it, as I have stated. In the United States, going diamond is probably less common than winning the lotto. Considering the fact that the odds are stacked against you, it makes sense to explore for alternate ways to make money.

If you succeed, the systems and your upline will take credit, but if you fail or quit, you are solely responsible. Are they the types of leaders or mentors from whom you would like to get advice?

I'm going to pass.

Amway - A Tough Business To Succeed In?

Amway - A Tough Business To Succeed In?

 People who promote the Amway opportunity as one that can be successful in either a good or poor economy are not without their detractors. In either a healthy or bad economy, the pitch might be that consumers require domestic products such as soap or cleaners to keep their homes clean. However, in a poor economy, individuals will be looking for the bottom line, or the lowest possible price, rather than the highest possible. That is one of the reasons Walmart has been so wildly successful. "Live better, save money," as Walmart's slogan proclaims. Given that Walmart's yearly sales exceed 400 billion dollars, one day's sales at Walmart equals or exceeds the annual sales of Amway. Consumers, without a doubt, are concerned with price.

It is common for Amway apologists to point out that not everyone can afford to purchase a Porsche or a Lexus. While this is true, it is absurd to believe that Amway products are on par with Porsche or Lexus when compared to other household products, or that consumers in general are concerned about such problems. What exactly do IBOs do? Do they like to brag about how much superior their laundry soap is than their neighbours'?

Another illogical strategy used by some Amwayers is to use names such as Robert Kiyosaki, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump as though they were famous people. However, the reality is that Robert Kiyosaki makes his money through Network Marketers rather than from Network Marketing itself. Alternatively, he may be marketing IBO books and seminars. Warren Buffet and Donald Trump are rumoured to possess multi-level marketing organisations, which means they earn FROM network marketers in addition to directly selling their products. Everyone who has some discernment can see right through this ridiculous argument, so don't waste your time with it. I've even heard allegations made by some Amway Independent Business Owners that various movie stars or celebrities are engaged with the company. Although there are a few celebrities that are engaged with Amway, they are often compensated to advertise the company rather than being rank and file independent business owners (IBOs).

Consequently, we must consider whether Amway is a feasible business prospect. Let me preface this by saying that those who attempt to sell items without engaging in the training system may have a chance to make a few cash, but these individuals are extremely rare. Many people are pulled into the world of diamonds and the pursuit of a dream. It is for this reason that large functions and conferences are filled with people chasing after dreams that are unlikely to come true. The standard IBO is ineffective, if not completely ineffective. A fraction of one percent of individuals who truly put up the effort may achieve platinum status, and an even smaller fraction of one percent may be successful in making money. Amway's own data, as well as the plan demonstrated by a large number of IBOs, support this. According to Amway, the average "active" IBO earns slightly more than $100 each month. We also know that a platinum group is formed when around 100 IBOs or more get together. We are aware that many independent business owners (IBOs) do little or nothing. Already, it is evident that only a small number of IBOs will ever achieve the platinum level, at which point you may be able to make a little profit, depending on your business expenses.

When you take into consideration Amway's reputation, you have an extremely difficult business opportunity. Now, Amway itself may have done excellent things, but the IBOs who represent Amway have tarnished the company's reputation. They have lied or tricked people into attending recruitment meetings, or they have called people broke or losers, and even now, there is an IBO who frequents this blog, claming to be in BWW, that slings muds and name calls this blog author. As a result, no matter how much effort you put out, it is extremely difficult to be successful in the Amway industry.

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