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Tuesday, August 17, 2021

Your Job Is A Pyramid?

Your Job Is A Pyramid?

 A particular point of contention for me is the way Amway uplines will instil a "us versus them" mentality in their organisations. As a result, friends and family members who are concerned about you suddenly become "negative," and contact with them should be limited or discontinued entirely. People are sometimes discouraged from striving for greatness in their jobs or professions because it diverts attention away from their Amway business, which is understandable. What I was taught was that I should carry out my responsibilities while keeping an eye out for fresh opportunities. Some cross-line IBOs declined advancements at their places of employment because they did not want to be required to work longer hours or to divert their attention away from their Amway enterprises.

In some instances, the speaker at open meetings or functions will disparage the positions of others. J-O-B, which stood for "Just Over Broke," was a regularly used abbreviation. Some leaders would also describe my position as a pyramid, because you would never make more than your boss, which is true. Because a person's employment has nothing to do with how people see the Amway business (i.e., an Amway pyramid), the comparison is absolutely absurd. In a job, every employee is paid and has a net gain at the end of each month. In Amway, this is not the case. If IBOs just use KATE, for example, an IBO with 100 PV or fewer will already be operating at a loss, and this is without taking into account any additional expenses that the IBO may incur. In addition, while a position may have a hierarchy, or a chain of command, the business owner and chief executive officer or management obtains their compensation from the company's customers rather than from the pockets of their employees.

Occasionally, uplines would make fun of people's occupations, claiming that they have to get up at the "crack of noon." The truth is that these same uplines may not tell you that they wake up at noon since they are up at 3:00 in the morning working for their groups and recruiting new members. These same uplines may not be able to do much with their downlines because the majority of their downlines work 9 to 5 jobs, according to the data. Even if an Amway diamond has a job, he or she works the graveyard shift because the rest of the world is at work during the day. One of the reasons you're getting up so early in the morning is that your upline diamond is required to sleep in because he's working the overnight shift.

If you believe that no one should criticise the Amway opportunity or IBO behaviour, then perhaps uplines and IBOs should refrain from criticising family and friends who disagree with or are not interested in the Amway opportunity. In addition, perhaps the same uplines and IBOs should refrain from criticising persons who choose to work. Isn't it true that most IBOs rely on their jobs? The chances are good that their Amway income will not be enough to cover even their Amway business-related expenses, let alone anything else. Because of the irony of the situation, it is most commonly someone's job that allows them to support their Amway business.

Working Hard In Amway?

Working Hard In Amway?

 One of the arguments advanced by many Amway proponents is that those who do not achieve did not work hard enough or did not put forth enough efforts. While I agree that one must work hard in order to be successful in many activities, I will also express my informed opinion that working hard and success in Amway are not related in the least. I mention this because I've heard so many testimony from people who worked extremely hard in the Amway business but saw little or no benefits as a consequence of their efforts. With Amway's dismal success rate, I find it difficult to think that it is simply a lack of effort on the part of the participants. Amway's low success rate appears to be a symptom of a larger problem.

A contributing factor to the problem is that many uplines place a strong emphasis on recruitment, despite the fact that there is no direct remuneration for doing so. In reality, recruiting downline frequently entails significant expenses such as petrol, babysitters, and the false assumption that an IBO must attend seminars and receive standing orders in order to learn how to do so. Furthermore, Amway has a shaky reputation in the United States, making it extremely difficult to acquire new downline members. Even finding someone who is willing to consider the Amway business model might be a difficult endeavour. Consider the implications of this. Most of the "core" steps that are meant to be the key to Amway success are frequently accomplished by people. Anyone, on the other hand, can read a book every day or attend all of the meetings. The only thing that keeps them from being core is finding enough others who believe in the strategy, let alone sponsoring any downline.

Finding clients to purchase your products is a vital aspect of any business's success. Because IBOs already spend a significant portion of their time recruiting rather than selling, they are already at a competitive disadvantage when compared to many other firms. When you factor in the seemingly incompetitive pricing of Amway and Amway partner store products, you have still another advantage that IBOs have over the majority of other businesses. The presence of IBOs who sell rather than recruit would be far more widespread if the items and services offered were of higher quality and value. Aside from that, the Amway compensation scheme frequently rewards uplines rather than the independent business owners (IBOs) who are actually responsible for moving the volume. Essentially, hard labour is unsuccessful because the Amway company comes with too many disadvantages for the majority of people to successfully navigate.

In addition, I believe that the Amway business model is out of date and ineffective. You may have a website to sell your products, but your restrictions greatly restrict the capacity of an IBO to attract visitors to their website, making it difficult for them to succeed. Although the "person to person touch" may sound beautiful and flowery, it is the most inefficient method of generating sales results. It is for this reason why companies spend millions of dollars to promote during the Super Bowl: you may have a hundred million people viewing your advertisement, which can increase your brand recognition and sales.

While I believe that working hard is essential to achieving success in any endeavour, I do not feel that there is a legitimate correlation between working hard and success in the Amway company for the reasons I have detailed in this essay.

Why I Dislike Amway

Why I Dislike Amway

 I used to be an Amway Independent Business Owner (IBO). This was back in the 1990s, remember? My first encounter with Amway occurred when I was invited to a "beer bust" while attending college. When I arrived at the party, I was surprised to discover my friends in suits and a white board put up in the living room. I was mortified. I remember thinking, "WTF?" Whatever the case, I stayed to see the plan and then departed, thinking to myself what a filthy trick it had been to ask us to a beer party to show us the plan in order to avoid being disrespectful to our friends. It was a disaster.

Later, an old buddy of mine got in touch with me and asked if I would be interested in hearing about a business opportunity he was considering. He explained the Amway business opportunity to me, and of course, I had a negative experience with it. In the meantime, I told my friend to call me if he actually made any money from it. My acquaintance phones me about a year and a half later and informs me that he has achieved the status of platinum. So it piqued my curiosity because he claimed it was not difficult and that he could easily lead me through the process. As a result, I bit and joined. After all, I was able to move up the levels and reach the 4000 PV level. However, I soon learned that, while rising higher was exciting, my net profit was still almost non-existent. And, as a result of the lack of profit, my upline's expectations rose as well. I was instructed to "submit" and follow their instructions. In addition, there were further meetings and functions.

My realisation that the entire game is a hoax came at that point. Yeah, I felt the diamonds were getting a fantastic deal, but it turned out to be a swindle for the rest of us. Yes, it is possible to outperform your sponsor, and occasionally, a person even breaks through and becomes a diamond. However, it is extremely rare, and those who are fortunate enough to obtain a diamond can easily lose it, as proven by all of the previous gems.

However, what I discovered is that it is a swindle for the rank and file, as well as the platinums. You are essentially selling false aspirations and dreams to your customers. You may attract a number of energetic and youthful people to your organisation, but the fact is that an overwhelming majority of them will fail, and the majority of them will lose money, with some losing a large amount of money. However, for the most majority of them, they never even had a chance when they signed up. This is due to the fact that, in order to keep the fraud going, prospects are only offered the best-case scenario and not what is likely. They are not informed that the vast majority of individuals do nothing or that the vast majority cannot sponsor anyone. Amway's products are difficult to sell, and a neutral price comparison would be detrimental to the company's bottom line.

Instead, we were told to be open-minded, not to talk about the Amway potential with family and friends, to listen only to upline (who have a conflict of interest), and to never give up on the chance. All of this is excellent advice for the diamonds in your upline, who will greatly benefit from hearing it. This is especially true given the fact that they profit from practically everything you do. They give you lies like being a nicer person or strengthening your marriage as a result of your participation in Amway, but once you are in, it is rarely about how much money you are earning. They want you to live vicariously via your upline's dreams in order to gain riches. They frequently believe that their diamond can walk on water when, in reality, they are simply lying and fooling their downline in order to sell them tools and functions.

They may be living the life of their dreams, but they are doing it by taking advantage of their downline while appearing to be their trusted advisors and mentors, according to you. And it is only one of the numerous reasons why I despise the Amway Corporation.

Upline Accountability?

Upline Accountability?

 Joecool believes that a significant part of the problem with the Amway opportunity stems from the complete lack of accountability displayed by some upline leaders. Alternatively, they may tell you to put your trust in them, submit to their authority, and simply reproduce or duplicate what they have done, with the implication that the same results will be obtained. Many downlines have invested their blood, sweat, and tears into the business over the years, only to suffer tremendous losses as a result of following the system. The upline will then lay the responsibility at the feet of the downline. They said that they did not strive hard enough or that they did not put in enough time and effort to succeed. Although system IBOs have a shockingly low success rate, nobody appears to be pointing the finger at the system as a source of failure. And no one appears to be questioning whether the upline is at fault or not.

According to my findings, many financial systems are similar in their operations. Whatever system you choose, whether it's BWW, N21, WWDB, real estate gurus or any other, the success rate is minimal. There will be a disclaimer on the back of many television commercials for products and services that state that success testimonials are unusual or unique. My understanding is that it is comparable to the processes in place at Amway. The lack of commitment or continuing expenditure on the system is not the issue. The system itself is frequently the source of the problem. It has the potential to work for some remarkable people. These individuals were already likely to be successful in other endeavours. Unfortunately, for the vast majority of people, this approach does not provide results.

The larger issue is that some uplines have been living large on the backs of the dedicated tool purchases made by their downline for many, many years. During this time, questionable or harmful advice was delivered to the faithful downline by those in authority. Advice such as abandoning a job in order to attend an event, ignoring financial commitments such as rent or power bills in order to purchase additional tools are all examples of what is considered bad advice. One upline even suggested that your family forego a meal since the standing order may be the one piece of information that you needed to hear in order to build your business. Personal experience has shown me that couples have lost their houses and gone bankrupt as a result of following upline counsel. "Has their best interests at heart," according to the upline. Granted, the spouse bears some responsibility for their actions, but uplines who provide this counsel appear to be exempt from punishment.

Where has the responsibility gone? Even now, some of these uplines who offered and received awful advice are still in business, and some of them continue to give bad advice to their downlines. Advice that is profitable for the upline and draining for the downline. Even in the face of legitimate accusations, it appears that many uplines fail to hold themselves accountable. For others, poetic justice may be served, as in the case of gems who have their homes foreclosed upon. But, given the fact that many uplines have no one to keep them accountable, are you really interested in doing business with these people? What if you had to put your retirement savings into the hands of a broker who could not be held accountable? Would you trust your car to be fixed by a business whose mechanics could not be held liable for their actions? Despite the fact that I do not believe the answers to these questions are correct, many people are urged to put their trust in and follow the counsel of an upline who is not held accountable for their decisions.

Despite the fact that the system is given credit for the few visible triumphs, the person is held accountable for any deficiencies or failures that may occur. Individual business owners (IBOs), I encourage you to hold your upline leaders accountable for the advice they provide you. If they are unable to answer difficult questions or accept responsibility, it is reasonable to question why you should place your trust in them.

The Psychology Used By Amway Leaders?

The Psychology Used By Amway Leaders?

 Behind the scenes of the presentation is some psychological reasoning.

This idea, I'm not sure whether it was meticulously carved out or whether it simply developed, but the way some uplines have implemented it shows that it is cleverly structured to draw individuals into their systems. If you aren't paying attention or being cautious, it is easy to become swept up in the thrill of the presentation. The presentation is rife with deception, and I will make an effort to bring out some of these instances in my analysis.

During his speech, the speaker may share his previous belief that he was "doing okay" in life. That he was earning a living and was in a position to meet his financial responsibilities. But he had a sneaking suspicion that there might be more. He came upon the idea one day and it completely transformed his life. He wasn't aware of how quickly he had fallen into a routine of going to work and returning home every day, and how much he looked forward to his two weeks off each year. (This is something that many people can relate to.) That time and money are really valuable in life. The ability to maintain control over one's time and money is essential for success. Many people have a lot of money, but they work nonstop all day and all night. Alternatively, folks have time but are cash-strapped and unable to do anything. During the speech, the speaker may state dreams or goals such as earning an additional $500 per month or more. What would you do with an extra $500 a month, if you had it? What would you do with an extra $50,000 each year? If the woman could stay home with the children instead of having to leave the family to go to work, wouldn't it be good. Do you remember the days of "Leave it to Beaver"? (This gets the ladies all pumped up.)

Almost certainly, the speaker will make some reference to the economy and how costs are constantly rising. The speaker may bring up the four "I's" that take money out of your paycheck one by one. Interest, Income Tax, Insurance, and Inflation are the four I's of economics. The speaker may go on to explain how the government will take a cut, and so on until you have received your "net." The speaker may bring up the fact that so many Americans are dead or broke by the age of 65, and that social security is on the verge of collapsing. (This causes apprehension in many people.)

The speaker can also discuss how many marriages are breaking up in the United States as a result of financial stress. Couples work so hard that they don't have time for their families, which is detrimental to their marriage. People these days work so long hours that they have become accustom to being confined to their workstations. The "manager" of the office is the person who is the first one to arrive and the last one to leave. That people are becoming indebted despite all of their hard work and effort. Credit cards are maxed out, loans are taken out, and you're attempting to keep up with the Joneses. (This is something that many people can connect to.)

However, because he was looking for opportunities and was open-minded, he came across an opportunity. This chance transformed his life, and it has the potential to do the same for you! The speaker is now up at the crack of dawn to deliver his speech. His wife stays at home to care for him and the children. They enjoy luxurious holidays and have the freedom to do anything they want, whenever they want. (Of course, who doesn't want that? Is this, however, correct?) The opportunity takes advantage of the internet and allows you to leverage your time and money in order to generate a residual income that you may keep after you stop working. (However, nobody just walks away, do they?)

In the presentation, this is around the time at which they mention the word "Amway." At this point, the speaker will defend Amway, claiming that if you can make money, does it really matter what you sell? Is it really that important if you can save money? The speaker may go into detail about the product line and discuss partner stores, and he or she will almost certainly demonstrate a 6-4-2 strategy or a variation on that plan. In every case, they will present the best-case scenario rather than the most likely one. Many prospects will leave with the impression that "all I need is six." They are unaware of how unlikely it is to sponsor six platinums, and there is no mention of retention rates or the revenue that most IBOs can expect, and any firm queries will be deflected to the prospect's inviter, which is a red flag. Additionally, the speaker may discourage you from communicating with your friends and family because they may have had a poor experience, but the diamond is successful and knows more about Amway than your relatives and friends do.

According to Joe's observations, the speaker establishes a strong sense of relatability right from the outset. His life circumstances will be similar to that of many others in the audience. He will mention that he is doing OK. However, there is a need or a search for more. He speaks about debt, and many people in the audience will be able to relate to him. They compel consumers to fantasise about their ideal autos or holiday destinations. He talks about walk away income, but he doesn't mention that only a very small percentage of people ever make a considerable amount of money, and that only a small percentage of people ever walk away. They claim that starting a business will allow you to make money while also saving money. It's difficult to argue with that, except for the fact that the vast majority of individuals will not make or save any money. It is true that the vast majority of people will lose money if they join totally or partially in the training system. Many of the committed IBOs experience significant financial losses. The plan is crafted out to sound sensible and relatable, but many IBOs will give it a try and shortly after, will realize that the system doesn’t work, that the reputation of Amway IBOs is soiled and sponsoring people or even getting people to see the plan is a barrier that most people simply cannot overcome. At the very least, if you are aware of what is going on, you may be able to avoid falling into the trap.

Seeing Amway With Rose Colored Glasses?

Seeing Amway With Rose Colored Glasses?

 One of the things that Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) are drawn to is the way their uplines will encourage traditional family values. They may recall the "Leave it to Beaver" days, when the father went to work and the wife took care of the home and dropped the children off at school on their way to work. While some of these ideals are admirable, they are not reflected in today's world in any meaningful way. Some presenters at Amway meetings may attempt to recruit others by stating that they can have this out-of-the-box lifestyle if they only work hard to establish their Amway business. This excites the spouses or girlfriends, who would relish the opportunity to not have to work a traditional 9-5 job.

Ironically, an IBO's desire for more time and money will almost always result in less time and money for the IBO and his or her family as a result of the IBO's efforts. They will take time off to demonstrate the plan, which will include attending an endless number of meetings and festivities. They also hold other gatherings, such as night owls, as well as open meetings where they recruit new members and employees. Most of them understand that they are being taught to "delay" gratification, but they are not aware that they are permanently delaying gratification by participating in the "systems." Unfortunately, the vast majority of those who work for Amway will never receive any monetary compensation. Most certainly, the net effect will be a loss of money.

One of the most common misconceptions among IBOs is that demonstrating the plan, following standing instructions, submitting to upline's counsel, and attending all functions will result in assured success within 2-5 years of joining the company. Anyone who expresses a different point of view on this is deemed "negative" and should therefore be avoided. The unfortunate reality is that people who put forth such effort and invest in the system are rarely rewarded with success. Even those who accomplish the platinum level may find that the net profit they generate is less than the net profit they would make working a minimum wage job for the same amount of hours they put in. Furthermore, sustaining a platinum status is a difficult undertaking. Is this the kind of success you're looking for?

My old sponsor earned the platinum level in less than two years, but he never advanced to Q12 status, and he never progressed further than the platinum level in his career. He has been participating for about two decades and, according to the most recent information I have, is below the platinum level. Even after all of that work and effort, I'm curious as to whether or not he has made a net profit of even $1.00 for his efforts. I believe he has incurred net losses in terms of money and time as a result of all of his efforts. It's a complete waste of your life and your time to do it.

Despite this, many independent business owners (IBOs) continue to see the world through rose-colored glasses, believing that they will be successful if only they never give up. They do not take into consideration that the past 2-5 years have passed. However, they are blind to the fact that their bottom line is significantly lower than they were lead to believe. The fact is, they are under the impression that Amway will save them financially, despite the fact that there are a number of facts and red signs pointing to the plain reality that they will never attain their goals.

I'm hoping that my blog will persuade a few IBOs to take their rose-colored glasses off for a brief moment.

Negative Cash Flow?

Negative Cash Flow?

 According to Amway fans, one of the things that they are talking about right now is the concept of Amway paying you to shop there. The problem with this remark is that many independent business owners (IBOs) perceive the refund but fail to consider the reality that you can still have a better bottom line by simply acquiring a product from a different source. Consider the following scenario: If WalMart introduced some sort of cash rebate scheme, would you consider abandoning Amway and shopping at WalMart?

Then, when an Amway follower is confronted with this facts, they will shift gears and begin to argue for the superiority of quality above cost. It's all fairly predictable at this point.

I have an open and honest question for IBOs. Is there a reason why you utilise KATE rather from the Amway voicemail system? Amway compensates you for shopping there, your upline profits from your purchases, and does not compensate you for using KATE.

One of the most common difficulties with IBOs, particularly new ones, is that they disregard negative cashflow. And I can't say that I blame them at all. They are typically sponsored by someone they know and trust, and they are frequently instructed to overlook facts or to believe that they are investing in their business, just like they would in a genuine firm, despite the fact that they are assured there is little or no risk when they are recruited. As a result, an IBO who desires to earn a profit will typically be provided with a website as well as other marketing materials. While the cost of these few supplies may not be prohibitively expensive, they will easily outweigh a new IBO's income unless they go out and sell some goods themselves or are able to sponsor downline who sell and purchase products. Furthermore, the more dedicated an IBO is, the greater the likelihood that the IBO's negative cashflow will be greater in size. When you start to incorporate standing orders and functions, the cashflow becomes increasingly negative, and there have been numerous reports of IBOs accruing enormous debts in a matter of years or less.

What's hilarious is that many independent business owners (IBOs) incur these loans on the advice of their upline, or, to put it another way, "mentors." Many uplines will tell IBOs that they should "never stop." Without understanding the specific circumstances of an IBO, I predict that uplines will make broad assertions such as "never quit." You "need" to attend a specific function, or you "need" to be on the mailing list, are examples of imperative statements. There will be no evaluation of an IBO's company or personal situation. There is no indication that uplines are interested in anything other than generating a sale for their BSM firm. You may wonder why a diamond should conduct an evaluation of a downline's business before delivering these comments. I question why they should be referred to as "mentors" by their subordinates. In the meantime, these downline members are experiencing a negative cashflow from their Amway operations. Contrary to popular belief, some upline members teach that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Attending functions and listening to standing orders while losing money month after month is the same as being insane on the job.

A company or a person is said to have negative cash flow when the amount of money that is being spent exceeds the amount of money that is being brought in by any means. This is a potentially problematic issue because it might result in a wide range of financial issues, including the possibility of bankruptcy. There is a wide range of factors that can contribute to negative cash flow, and in order to properly manage the problem, it is essential to have a solid understanding of these underlying factors.


The absence of positive sales or revenue is one of the most important contributors to negative cash flow. A company may be said to be experiencing negative cash flow if it is not bringing in enough money to pay all of its outgoing costs. This may be the result of a number of factors, including unfavorable market conditions, intense levels of competition, or inefficient approaches to marketing and sales. A company may need to reevaluate and modify its pricing strategy, increase its marketing and sales efforts, or diversify its product and service offerings in order to solve negative cash flow that is the result of a lack of revenue. These are some of the options that are available.


Poor cash management techniques are another typical factor that can contribute to negative cash flow. Problems like inadequate budgeting, inefficient collection procedures, or excessive expenditure are examples of this category of concerns. A company may need to assess its cash flow forecasting and budgeting processes in order to address negative cash flow that is the result of poor cash management practices. Additionally, the company may need to strengthen its collection methods or reduce expenses wherever it is practicable to do so.


External reasons such as economic downturns, changes in industry laws, or unanticipated events such as natural disasters or worldwide pandemics can also be the source of negative cash flow. Despite the fact that some of these issues may be outside of an individual's or company's ability to manage them, it is critical to address negative cash flow and take actions to lessen the impact. This can entail looking for additional sources of capital or modifying business operations in response to shifting conditions in the market.


When dealing with a negative cash flow, the first step that needs to be taken is to determine the reasons behind it and then formulate a strategy to deal with the problem. This may require making adjustments to the way the company currently conducts business, looking for additional sources of finance, or taking initiatives to reduce costs. Cash flow should be monitored on a regular basis and plans should be flexible enough to accommodate any necessary adjustments in reaction to shifting market circumstances or other external factors.


In conclusion, negative cash flow can be a big problem for the financial health of enterprises as well as individual people. Even though it could be brought on by a number of different things, it is essential to determine what those things are and devise a strategy to deal with the problem in order to avoid any potential monetary issues and to make sure that the business is successful in the long run. It is possible for individuals and businesses to try to improve their financial outlook and address negative cash flow by assessing strategies for the management of cash flow, making adjustments to business operations, and searching for additional sources of funding.


My Debate With An Amway Drone

My Debate With An Amway Drone

 Please accept my apologies for the length of this post, but it is actually pretty hilarious, and I will also include the link in case you want to follow along or perhaps give your own opinions on the subject matter. The traditional Amway defence, which includes unfounded income and lifestyle claims, is employed in this case. He also accuses me of lying, although he never specifies what he believes I am deceiving him about. Enjoy!

https://amthrax.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/penn-and-tellers-verdic-on-mlms-bs/#comment-48347

Malachy:

What do you mean, "FAILED system"?? Yeah. Right. 8 billion dollars each year, no sticks, no dent Throughout the last two years, we've added 60 merchant partners and experienced double-digit growth in North America.

(Oh, that's right.) Aha. ) And the world's #1 nutritional supplier, of course.

Joecool

8 billion dollars per year Amway made 11.8 billion in 2013, a decrease of more than 25% from the previous year. Is there no debt? What evidence do you have that Amway is debt-free? The fact that this is an old talking point has been proven incorrect in the past if you know how to utilise Google is proof of this. And the claim that they are the world's best-selling nutritional supplier is a complete fabrication.

Nestle is the world's most successful nutritional supplier, with sales exceeding $1 billion annually. They number more than 40 billion people in the Americas alone. You are simply repeating lies that your uplines have told you without checking them for yourself. The chances are high that you are also repeating income claim fabrications from your upline.

Nestle's annual report may be found at https://www.nestle.com/investors/annual-report

Malachy:

Because of AMWAY, no one went into the dark or lost their homes. (Gee, according to your logic, Greg (Duncan) couldn't afford the tapes, books, and travel expenses to all of those occasions.

Guy Matt (Tsuruda), an EDC, was earning $90,000 a month when we met.

He's probably making 4-5 times as much money now.

Joecool

It is not about how much money you make, but rather about what you do with it. Greg Duncan is making $40K every month, but he's going bankrupt?

Malachy:

For your information, there are approximately 3500 collegiate players who either graduate or declare for the draught before they graduate each year. Do you have any idea how many players are drafted in the entire NFL? 254. There is a 7 percent possibility of being drafted, which means you have to work hard.

Then there are some undrafted walk-ons that show up to training camp and play a role in the offence. Then there's organised team activities (OTAs), monocamps, training camps, and the preseason, during which 90 or so men all hope to make the roster (of which there are really less than 50 possible openings on a maximum 53-man roster, half of which are already taken by superstars like Tom Brady, Beckham, and Gronk, and the rest of which are taken by others).

So you have a 3 percent chance of even making the roster, and even if you do, you won't be earning any money because you'll be on the practise squad, which pays only the bare minimum.

Then there's the possibility of being hurt and missing the entire season (or a carreer)

What is the average length of a professional football career? The answer is less than 7 years.

And how much money do you make if you leave, quit, are cut, or are injured while playing in the National Football League?

There is no such thing as a zero (except maybe some pension depending on how long you played & what money you made. )

Tracey Eaton was forced to participate in a preseason game while suffering from the flu and a high temperature in order to prove himself and join the squad. In the state of Arizona.

Do you know what occurred after he retired from the NFL with $300,000 in the bank and had to try his hand at being a stock broker?

He ended up with a $400,000 debt and was forced to sell his home!

Thank goodness Wolgamott came along, and he inquired of Wolgamott as to how he was able to sleep in every day while also being wealthy.

They are now as free as diamonds and own a gorgeous high-rise condo in Seattle, as well as a second home on the river, which they purchased with cash.

Eaton earns more money than he ever did in the NFL, and he is not subject to injury, age, or roster cuts like he was in the NFL.

Yes, we are well aware of the chances.

)There's also the Superbowl champion Tim Foley in Miami, NBA player Hal Greer, and several other world-class championship athletes who make their income from amway or who advocate the nutrilite Brand, to name a few. Take, for example, Kurt Warner, another walk-on who proved he had what it took in terms of character and progressed from back-up quarterback to Superbowl champion. Yeah. nutrilite and amway are two of his favourite companies.

Not everyone who participates in the game is a champion or a winner. Only those who have what it takes (which, obviously, you do not!) will succeed.

Joecool

10:00 a.m. on July 30, 2018

7 percent is a significant increase in success over Amway Independent Business Owners. According to legend, a platinum is the point at which you begin to break even more and make a modest profit, depending on your dedication to the system. A platinum is already in the top 1% of IBOs, which is a very small fraction of the total. What genuine company owner prospect would want to invest their time and money in an opportunity where the chances of success are so slim?


Before they sign on the dotted line, arena football players are well aware of the terms of the agreement. They are signing up because someone informed them that if they play arena football, they will earn residual income for the rest of their lives.

Who knows what Tracy Eaton creates, and how can you find out? Did you get a copy of his financial statements? You have no idea what you're talking about, but you keep making these types of assertions. The only thing you're saying is that he lacks integrity and is capable of deceiving others in order to make a living. Walking the beaches for 2-5 years is a fabrication. One that has major ramifications for many of those who are involved.

Malachy:

woww. Once again, you demonstrated that you have difficulties comprehending (or paying attention to) what people are truly trying to communicate.

It is not certain that 7 percent of those drafted will make the squad by the end of preseason, and even if they do make the team, half of those drafted will never make a million dollars in their careers.

he majority of people have ended up broke after retiring (the average career is less than 7 years, and they don't pay you or even guarantee your wage if you aren't playing). Numerous players are injured, and most contracts feature team-friendly incentives that only pay based on the number of snaps you play in a given year.

He barely lasted a few years after breaking his asses to make the squad during preseason, and he ended up broke and forced to sell his home after he was released from the team. None of his NFL earnings were guaranteed or transferable to his children.

Now he makes more money than he did in the NFL, and all of it is transferable to his children, with the majority of it coming from passive, ongoing income streams.

He purchased his second property entirely in cash. (Did you do it?

Joecool

I absolutely get what you're saying. Anyone who is drafted, however, earns at the very least a signing bonus of approximately $100,000 or more, even if they do not make the club.

Most Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) make nothing, and if they attend events, almost all of them lose money.

Tracy Eaton can tell you that he purchased his property with cash. My house was purchased entirely with cash. See how that works out for you? Talk is cheap, but action is more valuable. Greg Duncan also stated that she purchased his properties with cash. After that, we have foreclosures. What's more, guess what? Homes that have been paid for are not subject to foreclosure.

“None of his NFL earnings was guaranteed or transferable to his children.” This is complete and utter nonsense. He could have left all of his guaranteed income to his children if he had planned ahead of time.

You know why Amway diamonds may resign or resign from their positions, but they never "walk away"? They have to continue to operate the company. The majority of Amway independent business owners do little or nothing and then resign. People will continue to do little or nothing and eventually give up if you do not continue to expand your Amway business. You will not be able to generate a sustainable income in an environment with such a high attrition rate unless you are constantly working at it. The never quit attitude that the upline instils in his or her employees applies to the upline as well. If they decide to leave, their company will implode faster than a low-cost Amway suit does.

Malachy:

Give an example of an NFL contract that stipulates that the player will continue to get their or her bloated pay even if they are no longer able to play.

There is no such thing! The entire process is completely dependent on their own abilities.

Amway does not hire on the basis of aptitude. You or your beneficiaries will receive income from an asset that continues to create revenue and hence earns for you or your beneficiaries.

Have you ever heard of the term "integrated Diamond"?

(Oh. Please accept my apologies. After Ron died, does this mean that Georgia Lee (Puryear) no longer receives any income?

It's probably best if you tell Jim to go obtain a job.

Joecool

So why don't diamonds just walk away and go to their retirement home? Because if they don't work, their company will come crashing down around them. If you want to be successful in Amway, you must be able to recruit and lie to recruits in order to get them to join up and purchase Amway products, tools, and functions.

I really don't know. Georgia Lee refused to share me (or you) her financial records, so I (and you) have no way of knowing what she is earning or if she is still earning money from Amway.

Surely you are aware that Amway diamonds make investments in other companies outside Amway, don't you?

Malachy:

In all of my years with the Amway firm and WWDb, I have never been lied to. You, on the other hand, lie all the time and make up stories to support your reasons for quitting your job. That is something that losers do, and it is not something that we do in our family.

Joecool:

What is it that I have lied about? I'd want to offer my own personal experience. Whether you agree with it or not is a different thing, but these are not fabrications.

You come up with all kinds of stories. You make claims about money from people you don't know. You put on the act of knowing how much money the gems make and how much money they spend. The truth is that you have no idea.

You fell for the deception that buying from oneself could result in profits for you.

Despite your repeated requests, you have yet to explain why not a single diamond was able to walk away with residual income. Instead, they continue to work until they are no longer needed. That is not the definition of freedom.

Living On Amway Island?

Living On Amway Island?

 Consider the following scenario: a city or island with 100 adult residents. One of the guys is sponsored into Amway by a cousin who lives in a different part of the island. Because the islanders are such a close-knit group, the one IBO quickly sponsors his six best buddies and, eventually, all 100 islanders in his community. They are all extremely dedicated to the Amway business and put in long hours, but because they are all Independent Business Owners (IBOs), they are only able to consume 100 PV each. As a result, the 100 IBOs shift a total of 10,000 PV per month. Approximately 30,000 BV are generated by the group as a whole, and the group receives $7500 in bonus money from Amway. Without a doubt, the first IBO sponsored is now a platinum member, and he receives the majority of the money, with the remaining members receiving lower amounts.

Because they are serious IBOs, they all receive a standing order, books of the month, and travel by plane to all of their events. They spend an average of approximately $250 per month on Amway training and tools. In order to fund the training that will eventually allow them to retire and leave their occupations, the group pays approximately $25,000 per month. Month each month, the island community suffers a net loss of $17,500 (the sum of $25,000 in expenses minus the $7,500 in cash generated by Amway) from their local economy. However, there is one resident IBO who is making a good living and encourages everyone to do the same. Let's take a look at the group.

An attractive income is generated by the platinum IBO, who will also earn a $20,000 bonus at the end of the year. In order to break even (roughly 1000 PV), his six downline pals earn just enough to make a small profit or even lose a bit. The remaining occupants have jointly suffered a loss of almost $200,000 ($17,500 per month). The owner of the local food store went out of business, and all of the entertainment-related businesses shuttered as a result of the citizens' lack of disposable cash, which prevented them from spending their money on anything except Amway-related activities. They eventually all left, even the platinum, who did so since, as soon as his group left, he began to lose money as well.

Now, Amway defenders may argue that this could never happen, but it demonstrates that even if you were able to recruit everyone in the United States to join, this is the scenario that would most likely unfold. I believe that the Amway name and reputation in the United States has been saturated for the most part. Almost everyone has heard of the Amway brand and/or knows someone who has had a run-in with the company. There are undoubtedly millions of people in the United States who have had a negative experience with Amway as a result of the tool peddlers such as WWDB, BWW, or Network 21. They may have been deceived into attending a meeting or lied to about something linked to Amway.

While this is a hypothetical scenario, it represents what I feel would happen if there was a city or island where everyone worked for the same company. This is exactly what is happening right now. Only a small number of people gain at the expense of their downline. In addition, as is always the case, it is the instruments that cause people to lose money – whether on Amway island or anyplace else.

People who have become deeply involved in the Amway company are said to be "living on Amway Island," which is a metaphor that is used to characterize the attitude and manner of life of such people. It is a concept that alludes to the notion that these individuals have essentially built their own insulated universe, apart from the one that the majority of people live in, since they are so concentrated on their Amway business.


The possibility of achieving financial independence and the independence to set one's own hours are two of the primary draws for many individuals who decide to become engaged with Amway. They may participate in Amway meetings and activities, where they are exposed to the enthusiasm and energy of other Amway members who share their vision of succeeding in the business.


It's possible that over time these people may grow increasingly preoccupied with their Amway businesses, to the point where it will control both their thoughts and their behavior. They might devote several hours of their day to attending meetings, talking on the phone, and trying to sign up new members. They might also start to keep their distance from friends and family members who are not involved in Amway, and they might even start to see these people as an impediment to their progress toward achieving their goals.


Living on Amway Island can be extremely rewarding but also extremely difficult at times. People who are successful in the Amway industry can, on the one hand, acquire a great level of financial success and freedom for themselves. They may also take pleasure in a sense of community and camaraderie with other Amway members who share their enthusiasm for self-reliance and business ownership.


On the other hand, life on Amway Island can be very isolated and taxing on an individual's emotional well-being. The constant pressure to recruit new members and make sales can take a toll on an individual's mental health and well-being, and the emphasis on positive thinking and optimism can create a culture of denial and avoidance of negative feelings. This can be a double-edged sword.


In addition, the business model utilized by Amway has been the topic of debate and criticism over the course of the years. Some individuals have asserted that it functions as a pyramid scheme, with the top-level distributors being the primary beneficiaries of this model. Despite the fact that Amway has categorically refuted these charges and has taken measures to differentiate itself from pyramid schemes, the debate has contributed to the development of a poor opinion of the corporation in certain quarters.


To summarize, life on Amway Island is a multifaceted experience that may be both rewarding and challenging at the same time. It takes a substantial amount of dedication, hard work, and endurance, but in the end it can lead to financial freedom as well as personal development. Nevertheless, it is essential for individuals to approach the Amway business with a critical eye and to be aware of the potential traps and negatives of the lifestyle that it promotes in order to avoid getting burned by the company.


Early Retirement Because Of Amway?

Early Retirement Because Of Amway?

 I've read some amusing stuff, such as when an Amway Independent Business Owner (IBO) claims to be 19 years old and will be "retired" at the age of 24 because of the Amway business. In my own experience, I am not aware of anyone who has retired primarily on residual Amway income, as many people appear to believe they have. Not that this has never been done before, but I assume that the number of people who have done it is so insignificant that it is not worth mentioning in this context. Even the Crown Ambassadors appear to be working, and they appear to have extremely hectic schedules that need them to be on the go all of the time. A number of royal ambassadors have passed away while still performing their duties in previous years. Why aren't there any Amway retirees around? I'm acquainted with retired teachers, police officers, fire fighters, and other professionals. There are no Amway retirees that I am aware of.

Because of the low retention rate of IBOs, even a large Amway operation could collapse rather fast if there is no regular replacement of IBOs in place. It is for this reason that I believe Amway employees will never be able to retire. They must continue to labour, or their firms would come crashing down. If you are a diamond, one downline platinum who fails to meet qualification requirements could cause you to be demoted to emerald rank. Diamonds do not last forever, especially in the world of Amway. They may be wearing the diamond pin and giving speeches at gatherings, yet they may have been a diamond in the past and have a limited downline group of people.

This is something I ask of IBOs. Is your upline diamond, or someone in the chain between you and the diamond, retired as a result of (mainly) Amway earnings? Do you, as an independent business owner, have a predicted date for when you will "walk away" from your firm and retire? When I was an IBO, I used to be perplexed as to why no one "walked away" from their business after they reached the diamond status. To my mind, the solution stands out like a beacon in the darkness. Because of the high turnover in the IBO industry, if a diamond were to leave the firm, he would most likely be out of qualification in less than a year. The bonuses would be forfeited, and the diamond would very certainly be forced to find for work. There are numerous examples of diamonds who have resigned their jobs and, in some circumstances, returned to them.

Many unwary prospects may be enticed into the Amway business with the promise of an early retirement in exchange for their participation. Amway recruiters may claim that having control over one's time and money is the key to success, but the reality is that the vast majority of those who join the company will end up with less time and money than they would have had they not joined at all. Many people, particularly young people, may find it beneficial to obtain financial guidance from a professional and to set long-term investing objectives. After 30 to 40 years, a monthly investment of approximately $200 can yield a return of close to a million dollars.

Yes, it is possible that "some" persons retired early as a result of their (mainly) Amway income. But I'm not aware of any. And not a single Amway apologist has ever been able to provide one example. It reminds me of the mythical creature known as Bigfoot/Sasquatch There have been several claims and allegations that these animals exist, but there is no genuine evidence to back the claim that such a monster exists in reality.

Does Anything Ever Change In Amway?

Does Anything Ever Change In Amway?

 I was hired by Amway for the first time about 1985 or so. As a senior in college, I was invited to a "beer bust." I accepted the invitation. Imagine my surprise when I arrived at a beer bust to find my friend (who had invited me and others) dressed in a suit and attempting to sell us Amway products. (Where had the beer gone, by the way?) So we were duped into attending a meeting, but we stayed to hear what they had to say. We departed and ended up going to buy some beer on the way home. LOL.

My friends and I discussed if Amway would be a viable business model, and we came to the conclusion that selling products would be a challenging hurdle that we would not be able to conquer.

As we looked at the 2-5 year strategy, we could see the possibility of retiring young, "walking away," and living high on the hog for many years to come. We were shown photographs of the checks that Toshio Taba had received at the time. (He went away a short time thereafter.) When we looked into it, we discovered that some Amway items could be sold in a niche market, and profits could be made. Because we determined that Amway products were too expensive to be competitive, we decided to pass on the opportunity. The friend who invited us, of course, informed us that he was going to be wealthy and would therefore not be available to hang out with us. He resigned from his position two months later and rejoined our group of pals.

A friend of mine had joined Amway and had achieved some level of success, which I discovered when I later viewed the plan again. He promised me that Amway was "simple" and that I would be able to achieve the same level of success if I followed his instructions. However, this is not the case. Despite the fact that I reached a certain level in Amway (4000 PV), I did not make any money. It is possible that my sponsor, even at "direct" or platinum (today), did not make a net profit as a result of the expenses connected with being a platinum sponsor. (Additional travel, functions, and costs to provide service to the downline.) The notion that achieving a certain level would result in financial gain was a fabrication because your "upline" suggested that you should spend all gains and return them back into the "system." Consequently, any profits were passed up the chain in the form of tool purchases.

My interactions with current Amway IBOs and prospects have revealed that there is little distinction between the teachings that are proclaimed. The same old, worn-out diamonds are still on the market. Certainly, there are some new diamonds, but the number of old diamonds that have vanished is far more than the number of new ones. If the system was functioning well, wouldn't fresh diamonds be emerging from the system on a regular basis? It appears that this is not the case. Someone still hasn't figured out that diamonds only work until they pass. Twenty to thirty years have passed since the Duncans and Wolgamott, Tsurudas and Harimoto became diamonds. Where has the fruit on their tree been if they were such outstanding teachers? The tree has been stripped of its leaves.

Amway And Accountability?

Amway And Accountability?

 Joecool believes that a significant part of the problem with the Amway opportunity stems from the complete lack of accountability displayed by some upline leaders. Alternatively, they may tell you to put your trust in them, submit to their authority, and simply reproduce or duplicate what they have done, with the implication that the same results will be obtained. Thousands, perhaps millions, of downlines have invested their blood, sweat, and tears into the business over the years, only to suffer tremendous losses as a result of the system. It is common for the upline to claim credit for little success while placing the blame on the downline when there is no success. Upline will state that they did not try hard enough, that they were not teachable enough, or that they did not put in enough time and effort to earn their position. Although system IBOs have a shockingly low success rate, nobody appears to be pointing the finger at the system as a source of failure. And no one appears to be questioning whether the upline is at fault or not. According to my assessment, the system and upline counsel are fundamentally faulty in some way or another.

According to my findings, many financial systems are similar in their operations. Whatever system you choose, whether it's BWW, N21, WWDB, real estate gurus or another, the success rate is incredibly poor. There will be a disclaimer on the back of many television commercials for products and services that state that success testimonials are unusual or unique. My understanding is that it is comparable to the processes in place at Amway. The lack of commitment or continuing expenditure on the system is not the issue. The system itself is frequently the source of the problem. It has the potential to work for some remarkable people. These individuals were already likely to be successful in other endeavours. Unfortunately, for the vast majority of people, this approach does not provide results. People who are successful in Amway are most likely doing it in spite of the system, rather than as a result of it.

The larger issue is that some uplines have been living large on the backs of the dedicated tool purchases made by their downline for many, many years. During this time, questionable or harmful advice was delivered to the faithful downline by those in authority. Advice such as abandoning a job in order to attend an event, ignoring financial commitments such as rent or power bills in order to purchase additional tools are all examples of what is considered bad advice. One upline even suggested that your family forego a meal since the standing order may be the one piece of information that you needed to hear in order to build your business. Personal experience has shown me that couples have lost their houses and gone bankrupt as a result of following upline counsel. "Has their best interests at heart," according to the upline. Granted, the spouse bears some responsibility for their actions, but uplines who provide this counsel appear to be exempt from punishment.

Where has the responsibility gone? Even now, some of these uplines who offered and received awful advice are still in business, and some of them continue to give bad advice to their downlines. Advice that is profitable for the upline and draining for the downline. Even in the face of legitimate accusations, it appears that many uplines fail to hold themselves accountable. For others, poetic justice may be served, as in the case of gems who have their homes foreclosed upon. But, given the fact that many uplines have no one to keep them accountable, are you really interested in doing business with these people? What if you had to put your retirement savings into the hands of a broker who could not be held accountable? Would you trust your car to be fixed by a business whose mechanics could not be held liable for their actions? Despite the fact that I do not believe the answers to these questions are correct, many people are urged to put their trust in and follow the counsel of an upline who is not held accountable for their decisions.

Despite the fact that the system is given credit for the few visible triumphs, the person is held accountable for any deficiencies or failures that may occur. Individual business owners (IBOs), I encourage you to hold your upline leaders accountable for the advice they provide you. If they are unable to answer difficult questions or accept responsibility, it is reasonable to question why you should place your trust in them.

Accountability is given a significant amount of weight in Amway's business model, just as it is in the model of any other successful company. Amway is aware of the significance of accountability at each and every level of the organization because it is a business that sells its products via the efforts of an extensive network of independent distributors.


Amway has built a robust culture of accountability at the company's corporate level. The corporation is dedicated to maintaining the highest ethical standards and acting in an honest and forthright manner in all of its commercial dealings. This commitment to responsibility is reflected in the company's code of conduct, which sets the company's expectations for ethical behavior and provides direction on how to manage ethical challenges. This commitment to accountability is reflected in the company's code of conduct.


In addition, Amway places a significant amount of importance on accountability on the level of the distributor. It is anticipated of distributors that they will behave ethically and responsibly in their business practices, as well as comply with the regulations and processes established by the company. They are also responsible for fulfilling particular performance requirements, like as sales targets and customer satisfaction measures, and they are held accountable for doing so.


Amway provides its distributors with training and materials to assist them in better comprehending the duties and commitments that come with the positions they hold as representatives of the company. This includes providing resources like as marketing materials and customer support services, as well as training on topics such as product expertise, sales strategies, and business management abilities.


Amway has additional procedures in place in addition to these steps to monitor and enforce accountability among its distributors. For instance, the company keeps track of the performance of its distributors by utilizing a set of performance measures, and it also offers support and direction in order to assist the distributors in improving their performance. Amway also has a system for processing complaints and grievances. This system provides a mechanism for resolving disputes and holding distributors accountable for their conduct by providing a means of making distributors accountable for their behavior.


In general, accountability is one of Amway's most important core values, and the corporation places a high priority on the responsibilities it owes to both its distributors and its customers. Amway is able to ensure that its products are marketed in a responsible and ethical manner and that its clients receive the greatest level of care and support because the company cultivates a culture of accountability and provides its distributors with training, resources, and assistance.


Your Amway Business Vital Signs?

Your Amway Business Vital Signs?

 The instruments on your dashboard provide information about how your automobile is performing and whether or not it requires maintenance when you are driving. For example, you may have a gas gauge to help you determine when it is necessary to refill the gas tank. If your engine is running hot or cold, you may have an indicator that shows the oil pressure, tyre pressure, and how warm or chilly the engine is running. When I need to change the oil or service the engine in my automobile, a light on the dashboard illuminates.

In addition, your Amway business contains some gauges. Unfortunately, many independent business owners (IBOs) are instructed by their uplines to ignore these indicators or are led to believe that warning signs should not be heeded. I'll explain further, but I feel that far too many independent business owners (IBOs) are aware of the warning signs, but have been conditioned to ignore them.

Selling items is what I do. Are you purchasing more PV than you are able to sell? I believe the majority of IBOs do. There is no way for a business to survive if it does not sell to customers. Bad upline guidance or coaching is one of the reasons why IBOs believe they can flourish even without consumers. "Buy from yourself" may be a part of some of the instruction. When you purchase anything from yourself, you make no money. Essentially, purchasing from yourself entitles you to become an Amway customer.

This is a non-profit, income-generating activity. If you spend a significant amount of time listening to standing orders, reading books, attending meetings, and prospecting people, none of these activities will generate any cash for you. In reality, these activities are costly to you. Sure, prospecting may pay off in the long run, but are you getting a fair return on your investment of time and money in these endeavours? Even if you pay for a standing order but are unable to generate more than 100 or 200 PV, your firm will not be able to cover the cost of the standing order, let alone the other charges that your upline may have persuaded you were "necessary."

Tools. If your monthly cost on tools (cds, meetings, voicemail, website fees, etc.) consistently surpasses your monthly income, you should consider what it will take for your business income to increase. If you don't, you'll simply be making a loss month after month after month. If you are not sponsoring or discovering new clients on a monthly basis, you are simply jogging in place, and you will burn energy (and money) while making little or no forward progress.

Do you have a plan to show me? If you are having difficulty getting individuals to see your plan, you will be unable to sponsor enough people to increase your volume. Additionally, your inability to demonstrate the plan will limit your capacity to recruit potential clients to your company. When you mention Amway, do folks get a little uncomfortable? These are warning indicators that the offer, despite what you hear from your upline, is not appealing to the majority of individuals.

Everything, including the warning signals and gauges, is in working order. IBOs merely need to believe what they see with their own eyes.

You Can't Buy Yourself To Profitability!

You Can't Buy Yourself To Profitability!

 I've been engaged in an extended dispute with a WWDB IBO who has been brainwashed. His explanation is apparent; he believes that purchasing from himself is a sound business strategy, as evidenced by his conviction. WWDB leaders appear to favour the purchase from yourself model because most people do not enjoy selling their goods and services. So it appears to be a harmless practise to simply purchase from yourself and encourage others to do the same, or to mimic you. In this approach, an IBO can still meet their de facto 100 PV target without feeling compelled to promote Amway products they are uncomfortable with.

However, how do you make money when you buy your own stuff? According to the Amway IBO, it is simple. He buys in bulk from Amway, then sells his products at retail prices, pocketing the difference. As a result, he believes it to be a decent profit. After getting myself up off the floor, I inquired as to why he didn't simply purchase 200,000 PV or whatever it takes to go platinum or diamond. Without a doubt, I'm speaking figuratively, but the Amway IBO doesn't respond and instead begins labelling me a broke loser. It appears that when Amway representatives run out of topics to dispute, they resort to personal insults.

So let's look at a real-life example, but for the purpose of simplicity, I'm going to utilise round numbers to make it obvious and easy to understand. Consider the following scenario: an IBO has $10. He purchases an energy drink from Amway (named XS) at a wholesale price of $2 a can for use in his business. He has a can of XS to drink and $8 in change in his possession. Are you still with me? So, let's assume an Amway Independent Business Owner (IBO) purchases from Amway wholesale and charges himself retail. He starts with $10 and spends it for a can of XS, which costs $2. He, on the other hand, charges himself the full retail price of $4. As a result, this IBO has a can of XS and $6 in his possession, as well as a $2 profit that is taxable income. Which of the following scenarios is preferable for you? In the first situation, it's simple because you have a can of XS and $8 on hand. In my second scenario, you also have a can of XS and $8 in your possession. However, $2 of that $8 is subject to taxation.

When you purchase anything from yourself, any "profit" you make is merely the transfer of money from one pocket to another. It is true that you have no profits if you do not have any real outside clients. As a result, the "purchase from oneself" argument is completely absurd. Can you think of a scenario in which a store's sales force is responsible for the majority of its sales volume? Only in Amway, which explains why the great majority of Amway independent business owners (IBOs) make either nothing or lose money. Customers are the lifeblood of physical stores. In the case of Amway, it appears that their clients are the Amway independent business owners themselves.

The bottom line is that no store or business can buy its way into profitability, and if you believe you can, you are deluding yourself and your fellow business owners.

What Profits?

What Profits?

 So many Amway independent business owners tell about their anecdotal stories of success, or how their method teaches a guaranteed technique to achieve in Amway, that it makes me laugh every time it happens. Despite this, I have not come across a single IBO who was prepared to define their business structure or discuss how they went from having 0 PV to having a viable business structure. David Steadson, alias IBOfightback, Amway's most vocal defender, is a good example of someone who can speak a nice game but cannot back it up with evidence of any success in the Amway business model. What's more, where has David Steadson gone these days? It appears that he has finally decided to withdraw from the Amway debate.

The WWDB commanders taught me that someone who could talk a good game but not do was a teacher, not a doer when I was in the IBO. Many independent company owners (IBOs) may have a sound philosophy about how to create a firm, but the evidence plainly demonstrates that they are only talking and not doing action. To give a concrete example, consider how an IBO is expected to identify 20 consumers who each purchase 20 PV from the IBO. Nobody that I am aware of or has ever heard of has ever had 20 customers who consistently purchase the equivalent of 20 PV each month on a consistent basis. Sure, there may be the occasional IBO who generates significant sales, but given Amway's less-than-competitive pricing, the vast majority of IBOs are likely to rely on sympathetic relatives and friends as their primary clients, assuming they do have any customers at all. It is tough to offer generic types of products at a premium price when the product is in demand.

According to my observations, the majority of independent business owners (IBOs) have a small business and are unable to sponsor enough downline to move any significant volume. They self-consume 100 PV on a consistent basis and complete the majority of the CORE stages, with the exception of being able to continuously display the plan and sponsor downline. What is the reason for this? It's because Amway's reputation has been tarnished, and getting people to understand the strategy is a monumental effort in and of itself, let alone when you consider that sponsoring is even more difficult. If you are reading this article and you can relate to what you see here, it is possible that you need to re-evaluate your business situation and ask some difficult questions of your sponsorship. If your Amway business is not progressing in the manner depicted in the plan, when do you think it will? Alternatively, what will you do if your upline's teaching is not assisting you in your progress? Although your upline may advise you to "never leave," there are times when it is prudent to walk away from a business and pursue something different. That is not the same as giving up on your dreams; it is merely seeking a more suitable environment in which to pursue them.

Another question arises as a result of this. In other words, outside than flashing a Xerox of someone's diamond bonus or anything similar, has your sponsor or anyone upline genuinely demonstrated that they are making money in Amway? What kind of reaction did you get if you did inquire? When I inquired about profit from my sponsor, I was told that it was "none of my concern." The provision of this information should, in my opinion, be the responsibility of the person who is requesting you to use their system, which is not provided for free. If your upline preaches submission to one's superiors, you should demand to see outcomes even more strongly. Is it really necessary to follow the counsel of your upline if they fail to provide proof of a profit?

In the event that your upline or sponsor refuses to provide you with proof of profit, this should raise red lights everywhere you look. Maybe, just maybe, Amway's detractors are onto something with their accusations.

What Is Real Success?

What Is Real Success?

 Success is a matter of opinion. While someone earning ten bucks a day may be deemed successful, for others, nothing short than a barrel of cash will satisfy as proof of their accomplishment. Another key item to mention is that there are unquestionably some extremely successful people associated with Amway. Certainly, some Amway diamonds are well-off and enjoy some of the best things in life, and I have no doubt about it. However, the reality is that these kinds of accomplishments are quite unusual, and many of them appear to be short-lived, contrary to what many people believe.

Nevertheless, the more significant issue in the Amway business opportunity is where the success originates from. Yes, many individuals desire to "go diamond" and live in luxury as large sums of money are poured into their accounts. However, what many people are unaware of is that the few that enjoy the lifestyle and trappings of the business do so at the expense of their downline. In order for the upline to profit from the volume moved and the system materials purchased by the downline, both of these activities must take place. Because Amway items are not often sold to persons who are not Independent Business Owners (IBOs), it is reasonable to believe that upline success is derived from the pockets of the downline. A cheque for $100 per month to their upline would be preferable to the majority of downline who would be better off not engaging in the business or purchasing anything at all.

For its own sake, this would not be a significant problem if the system consistently produced new triumphs AND if the downline was not made to feel that the system is essential to their own success. However, just a tiny fraction of one percent of IBOs ever reach the platinum level, and of those that do, only a tiny fraction of one percent ever reach the diamond level, according to the data. However, the firm has tens of millions of people who have attempted and failed to accomplish the goals that were promoted. Although a lack of effort may be a contributing issue, when that many people attempt and fail, it is clear that the system as a whole is faulty.

To summarise, it is possible for someone to achieve a significant level of success in the Amway business, but it is extremely difficult and extremely rare. In fact, IBOs have a better chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightning than they do of achieving a significant level of success in the Amway business. Some people are successful, but it is almost always at the expense of their downline or their organisation. That said, uplines will teach their loyal downline IBOs that attending an event or placing an order is success, regardless of whether or not the IBO is making a profit on the transaction. So many independent business owners (IBOs) believe they are successful, yet they are only fooling themselves with the assistance of their upline.

Success is undeniable, but for the vast majority of independent business owners (IBOs), it is also out of reach, at least in the Amway opportunity.

The term "real success" can signify something quite different to each individual. However, true success can be summed up as the attainment of a sense of fulfillment and purpose in one's life as well as the pursuit of a way of life that is congruent with one's basic values and beliefs.


The attainment of monetary money or other outward signs of success, such as a high-paying job, a flashy automobile, or a large house, is not the same thing as genuine achievement or success. Although each of these things has the potential to be a component of a successful life, they are not the only aspects that lead to an existence that is truly rewarding and meaningful.


A true sense of accomplishment requires not only having solid personal relationships but also being linked to a community and making meaningful contributions to society as a whole. It involves experiencing a sense of purpose and meaning in one's life, as well as a sense of satisfaction and fulfillment from pursuing and achieving one's goals. Having a sense of purpose and meaning in one's life is essential to having a fulfilling existence.


A true success also requires one to be open to personal development and education, as well as to accepting new possibilities and challenges. It needs the ability to adapt and adjust to changing circumstances, as well as tenacity and perseverance in the face of failures and hurdles.


It is essential to understand that true success is not something that can be attained by the validation or acceptance of others from the outside. It is a very private and unique experience that calls for a person to have a healthy awareness of themselves, to accept themselves as they are, and to be willing to be honest with themselves.


In the end, achieving true success comes down to living a life that is genuine and satisfying to oneself while also making a constructive contribution to the world around us. It is not something that can be accomplished in a single night; rather, it is a process of developing one's personality and learning more about oneself that takes place over the course of time.


It is vital to determine one's own values, goals, and priorities, and then work toward achieving those things with the dedication, passion, and purpose that they deserve in order to attain true success. In addition to this, it entails welcoming difficulties, being willing to take chances, and gaining wisdom from one's mistakes along the road.


To summarize, achieving true success is leading a life that is meaningful and purposeful, one that is in harmony with one's own core values and beliefs, and one that has a beneficial influence on the world around oneself and others. It is not only determined by external indicators of success; rather, it is defined by a profound sense of personal fulfillment and happiness.


What Are Your Dreams?

What Are Your Dreams?

 One of the methods my upline uses to acquire prospects is to urge them to think about their hopes and aspirations. Dreams might be grandiose, such as owning a yacht, or they can be modest, such as taking a cruise ship from New York to Alaska. The recruit is encouraged to think large and to imagine the activities they would like to do in their spare time. Perhaps it is the lack of a job, or perhaps it is the fact that you are a stay-at-home parent. All of them are fantastic aspirations and dreams. Dreams and aspirations are healthy things to have. The speaker will then inform the audience that all of these things are available as a result of their participation in the Amway opportunity. They are not going to declare that it is exceedingly unlikely. They just provide you with the best-case scenario, which is a pipe dream.

Now, it's possible that some people have had wonderful success with Amway. However, because these individuals are so few and far between, it is possible to claim that the lottery has the same level of success as Amway diamonds, or that the lottery has more winners than Amway diamonds. Recognizing that both the lottery and Amway are games of chance, it's possible to compare the "probable" outcomes of the two games. When it comes to Amway and the lottery, the vast majority of people are wasting their time and money while doing absolutely nothing. You have certain "best case scenarios" in which just a handful of them are realised. You then draw attention to and exhibit the success stories as proof that "anyone can achieve," just like anyone with a lottery ticket has a chance to win the lottery. The fact that a game of chance achieves results that are close to those obtained by Amway should raise red flags.

Some uplines will frequently inform their loyal downline that anyone who speaks poorly about Amway is a "dream stealer," implying that they themselves are a "dream stealer." Of course, this is a load of nonsense. Your heart and intellect are filled with the vision of your future. Nobody will be able to steal that. Second, whose dream is it that is being jeopardised? Isn't it true that the upline diamond is the one who gets all the perks and the big checks? The downline is essentially the ones who are footing the bill for their upline's goals. It is widely recognised that the vast majority of Amway items are not marketed to persons who are not Independent Business Owners (IBOs). It is also widely recognised that independent business owners (IBOs) account for 99 percent of all sales of tools and business support supplies. So, can you guess where the success of your upline diamond originates from? Yes, you are correct. The product volume of an IBO, as well as the tool purchases made by an IBO, generate a substantial income for the upline diamond. Take a deep breath and consider it for a moment.

So, absolutely, there are some people who succeed in Amway and reach their goals. In addition, there are persons who have achieved their goals via winning the lottery. There are millions of people who have attempted to develop an Amway business but have failed miserably. There are millions of people who enter the lottery each year but do not win a prize. Some dreams are realised, but the chances are that they are not yours. If you "never quit" and stick with the system, there is a significant probability that the dreams of your upline diamond will come true.

The question is whether you are attempting to realise your own ambitions or those of others.

Tools Are Vital To Amway Success?

Tools Are Vital To Amway Success?

 As an IBO, I was told that I "needed" to attend all of the company's meetings and functions. According to what I was taught, attending all functions meant "attending them all." True North series host Brad Duncan previously mentioned on a tape that downline should not cancel standing orders even when IBOs resign because there would be an immediate need to replace that individual if they did so. During my time in WWDB, our group was told that, while not everyone in WWDB may have taught this, we should purchase 5-7 additional tapes/cds on top of our existing standing order because we should be listening to new material on a daily basis and because we should be passing out these materials because they will sponsor new people. Up to this point, I am not aware of anyone who has distributed a cassette tape or a CD and had someone decide to join the Amway business as a result of listening to that cassette tape or CD.

At the time I was working in the business (at WWDB), our group was informed that WWDB was a not-for-profit corporation. Even though that statement was shortly withdrawn, the WWDB leaders stood on a podium in front of tens of thousands of IBOs and said that no profit could be earned from tools. We now understand that it was a fabrication. We also know that many of these leaders are still active in the classroom, and as far as I am aware, not a single WWDB leader has ever been held accountable for their deception. Some of these deceptions may have resulted in untold financial losses for the downline. I'm confident that if I'd realised that some uplines made the majority of their revenue from tools and that their advise was a conflict of interest, I would have been less committed to them and the tools. Amway supporters are currently talking about how negative misinformation about the company is affecting their business, yet it appears that the majority of damage to Amway has been done by IBOs themselves, such as misleading people into attending meetings. As far as I'm aware, no one has ever been held accountable for the financial losses suffered by downlines and former IBOs who were misled about Amway's products and services.

Now, I'd like to highlight that I do not believe the tools are effective and that they do not yield any outcomes for me. In their defence, Amway defenders would say that the system contains the vast majority if not all of the company's new emerald and diamond inventory; yet defending Amway will neglect to mention that there are also tens or hundred thousand individuals who utilise the system without success. There is no credible, unbiased evidence that the system achieves any results that I am aware of, to the best of my knowledge. It is for this reason that IBOs later tell about how they have become a kinder person and how their marriage has been strengthened as a result of joining the system. While these are excellent side benefits (if they are true), they are not the primary reasons for starting a business. However, uplines come up with all kinds of reasons as to why IBOs did not profit, even blaming the IBOs who put their faith in them for their failure to generate a profit.

This gets me to the fundamental reason of having tools in the first place. In reality, tools exist to generate earnings for your upline members only. Initially, I believe the tools were created as a motivator and training tool for new and distance IBOs. However, it appears that GREED eventually set in, and many uplines began emphasising tools, not because they desired downline success, but because their tool businesses were wildly successful, resulting in thousands of captive downline dedicated to the system. Many independent business owners (IBOs) who worked hard, never missed a meeting or function, and did not sponsor any downline were nevertheless told they needed more and more tools, which I believe to be true.

I believe that the primary reason for having tools is to ensure that your upline's tool company is lucrative.

The Illusion Of Amway Wealth?

The Illusion Of Amway Wealth?

 One of the many lessons my upline instilled in us was the importance of having faith in our business and in our upline, which he repeated over and over. The fact that we had to think that we were going to be successful was essential. IBOs are instructed that they should project a successful image even though they are still in the process of moving up the corporate ladder in the company. It is for this reason that they request (demand) IBOs to dress in suits and business clothes to all meetings and gatherings. This is, in my opinion, one of the strangest aspects of the industry to observe. I reside in Hawaii, and I recall a function that was conducted in a high school auditorium in the middle of July, when there was no air conditioning in the building. Due to the fact that it was totally saturated with perspiration, I believe that my suit required special cleaning.

In any event, with this time of year approaching, tens of thousands of IBOs will be shuffled off to a function known as a family reunion, or in some circumstances, a summer conference, in the near future. The tickets are approximately $250 to $300 in price, and depending on where you reside, you may be required to travel as well as stay in motels and rent a car. What many IBOs are unaware of is that many locations will allow you to host these conferences at a very reduced cost. The remainder of the ticket pricing is funnelled directly into the pockets of your upline. In any case, there will be slide exhibitions showcasing homes, yachts, jet skis, sports cars, great vacations, and other trappings of riches on display during the celebration. The speakers will most likely be the same old diamonds and/or emeralds that everyone is used to hearing. Because WWDB has so few new diamonds and emeralds, if you've been around for a while, you've probably noticed that the same old speakers appear at the same old functions.

What many IBOs are unaware of is that this display of wealth is simply that: a display of money. There is no solid evidence to suggest that these diamonds are the legitimate owners of all of those toys and other trinkets. Because these toys and sweets may not actually be theirs, the diamonds are unlikely to verbally acknowledge their ownership of them as well. It may be rented, or it could be owned by an upline royal ambassador, but IBOs will think that these trappings of riches are commonplace once you achieve diamond status, and they will be correct. As an IBO, I had no way of knowing how much a diamond was worth in real life. As a result of being shown all of the pleasures, I made the assumption that all diamonds lived in this manner. Certainly, it was implied that all diamonds came "for free" with opulent living arrangements. However, I have come to believe that diamonds lead middle-class lives, despite the fact that they do not have to work 9-5.

People would be outraged if I shared a picture of my mansion and a private plane and claimed that I owed everything to my blogging revenue. They would claim that I was lying or making things up. And they'd be absolutely correct. In fact, I would think that many diamonds are doing exactly the same thing if they get on stage and make it appear as if they have private aircraft, mansions, and a fleet of high-performance sports automobiles. As I previously stated, someone may own a home and/or a private aircraft, but to imply that this is a part of the normal diamond lifestyle is a bit misleading. The evidence is in front of us. Some diamonds have been forced to abandon their houses due to foreclosure. We learned from our old LOS diamonds (WWDB) that diamonds will pay cash for everything, including residences. This has since been proven to be a clear untruth. No one can tell what else they could have misled.

I ask IBOs and prospects who may be attending a major and touted event to keep a watchful eye on what is going on. In displaying riches, what is the implication of the act? Examine whether such indulgences may be acquired with a diamond income ($150,000 plus a small amount from tool sales). Consider whether or not this way of life is genuinely sustainable. Inquire as to whether you are capable of living with yourself if dishonesty is a necessary part of achieving your diamond lifestyle.

The Amway Haves and Have Nots?

The Amway Haves and Have Nots?

 Amway recruiters typically hold their meetings in hotels or convention centres, or they may have events in huge venues. Anyone who has been prospected or had an experience with Amway has most certainly attended a recruitment meeting. There may have been several hundred to several thousand people in attendance, and if it was a large event, you could have been seated with tens of thousands of other Amway aspirants. During a function in the (then) Seattle King Dome in the early 1990s, my former sponsor informed me about an event that drew approximately 40,000 IBOs. Being in a room with so many people, especially when they are all so enthusiastic about the event, must be a little exciting, I suppose. All in all, it appears like everyone there is planning to "go diamond."

Invisible to naive prospects and Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) is the fact that the folks on stage are the haves, while the people in the audience are the have-nots. Like going to a Bruno Mars concert, only that Bruno doesn't tell the crowd that they will one day be on the stage with him, making a financial fortune by doing what he does, as he does with the rest of the world. Those who believe they will one day be the next Bruno Mars and perform on a stage in front of thousands of people are among the most delusional among us. They pay their admission money and then sit back and enjoy the entertainment. On the surface, an Amway function is similar to the last one, except that the diamonds lie and announce that "anyone can do it" and that members of the crowd will join them on stage.

Sure, every once in a while, someone may overcome the great obstacles and challenges to become a diamond, but since I left Amwat and WWDB, more diamonds have died than have been born since I left the two organisations (in North America). It appears that the same old gems are still around, and that the same old tiresome ideals of never giving up and loyalty to the tool system are still being taught. And, after all, why not? The haves profit from the tools, while the have nots are responsible for paying for the tools. In a way, Amway is similar to the real world, where there are haves and have nots. However, on Amway and other MLM platforms, the have nots are led to believe that they can join the elite and appear on stage with them at festivities. In case you're looking for facts, the bottom line is that those who sell function tickets make handsome gains, however people who buy function tickets will make no money, or even lose money, most likely as a result of the high cost of tools and function tickets, as previously said.

When I was discussing a pro-Amway/WWDB person recently, he claimed that his expenses were minimal, which is completely incongruent with WWDB teaching methods and practises. As an added bonus, he states that his upline Diamond has the financial wherewithal to rent an apartment for $20,000 a month while remodelling his multimillion-dollar property. Is this a true statement? But even if it were true, I seriously doubt that anyone is making $20k per month selling LOC or vitamins at this time. However, selling event tickets, CDs, or voicemail subscriptions may produce tens of thousands of dollars in monthly revenue. As a result, your upline will provide you copies of their bonus checks, but they will never share anyone their financial information. In other cases, IBOs and prospects who have witnessed their upline making a fortune from products may be hesitant to acquire the same items with enthusiasm.

Overall, if you are selling tools, you are likely to be successful and to be associated with the "haves." If you purchase the tools, you will almost certainly be unsuccessful in Amway. You are a possessor of nothing. There is little interaction between the two, and you are deluding yourself if you believe they do.

How Your Upline Gets Wealthy?

How Your Upline Gets Wealthy?

 This piece was inspired by a comment published on my blog recently. The implication was that independent business owners (IBOs) are essentially "donating" to their upline on a monthly basis. You begin by making regular monthly purchases from your upline to support them. Your 100 PV is about equal to $300, and the majority of the bonus created by that volume is distributed upwards. This will continue indefinitely until you either quit and stop purchasing, or else you manage to sponsor a sufficient number of downline members who will then "contribute" to you.

If you participate in such open meetings, you are once again contributing to the upline's financial resources. When I was an IBO, I was actively urged to attend these sessions, even if I did not have any new possibilities to share with the other participants. And, of course, there was a price to enter the building at the door. Despite the fact that a room with possibly 1000 guests equals $6000 in revenue, a room with seats and a speaker does not cost that much for an evening's worth of entertainment.

With standing orders, you are donating to your upline on a weekly basis, which is really convenient. If the upline is able to recreate audios for 50 cents or even a $1 a piece, this is an extremely profitable business opportunity. Apart from that, most upline propose that you listen to one CD/audio every day, thus you'll need to acquire some additional CDs/audios in addition to your standing orders.

Monthly donations are also made for voicemail and the book of the month. Who in the world still uses voicemail in this day and age? However, uplines continue to recommend it since they earn a substantial amount of money from it. Although the book of the month may be of some value, the uplines are still making money from these sales as well. Consider this: these diamonds profess to care about your success, but they need you to pay for virtually any assistance you receive, regardless of whether or not that assistance is conducive to your business's success. According to Amway regulations, your sponsor is required to train and motivate you at no charge.

The regional and major functions are analogous to the monthly fund raisers for the jewels in terms of scope and scale. It is not uncommon for major functions to draw hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands of people. If they pay $100 (or more) each, it is a significant source of income for the upline. A convention centre or arena incurs expenses in order to host events, although those expenses (albeit they vary) are typically between $10 and $25 per participant. The diamonds make a tidy profit on everything else.

Overall, the profit margin for these tools and functions is significantly higher than the profit margin for Amway items. As a result, it is completely logical to believe that the diamonds can make significantly more money from selling tools than they can from selling Amway products. Those diamonds who work in groups where current qualifications aren't required for a cut of the tools may be able to earn practically all of their income from the tools and functions. It's more of a diamond fundraising than a celebration to assist IBO's with their endeavours. After all, who stands to gain the most financially from the use of the tools and functions? Which is more valuable, the diamonds or the IBOs?

If you are interested in multi-level marketing (MLM), you have most likely heard a lot about the opportunity to get wealthy by creating a downline and collecting commissions from the sales of your downline's downline members. But have you ever thought about how the people in your upline make so much money in MLM? The following is a list of some of the most important reasons that have contributed to their success:

Recruitment

When it comes to making money in MLM, one of the key ways that your upline does it is through recruitment. They increase the amount of commission they earn from their sales in proportion to the number of people they attract into the firm. This results in a structure that resembles a pyramid, with your upline sitting atop it and you and your downline sitting below them.

Sales Volume

In multi-level marketing, one more way for your upline to make money is through the amount of sales. This represents the entire amount of goods that is sold inside their company, which takes into account sales that are made by members of their downline. Your upline will earn a greater percentage of the commission based on the total sales volume that is generated.

Rewards for Exemplary Leadership

Many multi-level marketing businesses reward their top achievers with leadership incentives. These bonuses are often determined by the total number of sales achieved as well as the size of one's downline. They may be eligible for leadership bonuses, which may add up to a big amount of money if they are able to establish a large, active downline that generates a significant amount of sales volume. If your upline is successful in doing so, you will be able to qualify for these bonuses.

Personal Sales

Personal sales can also add to the wealth of MLM uplines, even if recruitment of new members and total sales volume are the key sources of income for MLM uplines. If your upline is successful in selling a considerable volume of product on their own, in addition to the commissions they earn from their downline, they are eligible to earn commissions on those sales as well.

Instruction and Assistance

In conclusion, it is important to point out that a common way for prosperous MLM uplines to gain additional income is by selling assistance and training to their downlines. Hosting webinars, developing training materials, and providing one-on-one coaching are all examples of what may fall under this category. Although the revenue from this source might not be as substantial as commissions from sales or recruitment, it is still possible for it to accumulate over time and make a contribution to one's overall wealth.

In conclusion, the wealth of an MLM upline is the result of a complex interaction of many different elements. A successful multi-level marketing (MLM) organization will have crucial components such as recruitment, sales volume, leadership bonuses, personal sales, as well as training and support. If you want to start your own multi-level marketing (MLM) firm, it is essential to have a solid understanding of these aspects and to put in the effort necessary to develop them over time. You can pave the way to success and wealth in the world of multi-level marketing (MLM) by putting your attention toward developing a robust and energetic downline and earning a significant quantity of sales volume.


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