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Wednesday, June 9, 2021

Amway Poland

 Qualifiers

  • a non-exhaustive list of Diamonds and above

Double Diamond

  • Bujwiccy, Izabela & Marek (2010)

Executive Diamond

  • Schwarz, Max
  • Kalinowski, Zbigniew

Founders Diamond

  • Derejczyk, Maria & Stanislaw (2008)
  • Fellnhofer, Andreas & Brigitte
  • Maksymovicz, Jarek & Krystyna (2008)
  • Swiatkowska, Darek & Katarzyna (2008)

Diamond

  • Chmielewscy, Robert & Agatha
  • Mueller-Meerkatz, Peter & Eva (1998)
  • Hetnal, Mira & Leszek (2007)
  • Dorota & Tomasz Kasjanscy (2012)

Related Links

  • E-commerce: Amway's online optimism - Warsaw Business Journal Online 4th February 2008
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Amway Philippines

Qualifiers

Double Diamond

  • Meyer, Karl & Ruby
  • Executive Diamond
  • Dornan, Jim & Nancy
  • Lei, Mark & Peggy 2009
  • dela Cruz, Roberto & Alma 2008
  • Tero, Mario & Babes 2014

Founders Diamond

  • Fernandez, Ernie & Olive 2009

Diamond

  • Driz, Ariel & Ambec 2006
  • Ghannadan, Ali 2006
  • Lee, Eric & Rebecca
  • Vergara, Percival & Unger, Laarni 2008
  • Huang, Karen 2008
  • Xie Guoguang & Zhong June
  • (at least 1 other 2005 qualifier)
Amway Philippines

Punjapon Benjamin Jureegasa-Paradee Piyanantawarin Amway

 Benjamin and Paradee are young successful Thai business professionals who choose Amway as their first and last business chanc in their lives. They have qualified Thailand Double Diamond pin, Australia/New Zealand Diamond, and North America Platinum.

Benjamin is one of the good examples of young generations fighting for the best in his life. Besides graduating from one of Thailand's premier colleges, he has exceptional sport and music skills. He loves playing piano in music and won first place in the Thai Young Yamaha National Music Contest. He loves playing tennis in sport and was designated as the Young National Tennis Athlete winning fourth place in the national event.

Punjapon Benjamin Jureegasa-Paradee Piyanantawarin

Benjamin believes that all successful individuals have the ability to postponed gratification, which is the ability to leave little daily satisfaction behind and struggle for greater reward that is more significant and will remain for eternity. For a moment, therefore, he elected to quit doing what he loves, which are piano and tennis, and fights to succeed in this company. Because he understands Amway's success will allow him freedom to do what he loves forever with no-worry.

Paradee has a really good family background. Her parents operate various enterprises, including one of Thailand's largest electrical supply distributors. Paradee graduated with Bachelor of Business Administration from Thammasat University and MBA from Chulalongkorn University's Sasin Graduate Institute of Business Administration, the best university in Thailand. She's been through several job categories. 

She used to be a business consultant in one of Big 4 firms, used to be an air stewardess in Japan Airlines, used to work in the field of news reporters, and helped her parents run the family business. But after going through several sorts of work, she learned that there is no job as Amway that create value for her life.

Benjamin and Paradee now have highly active business in many countries around the world running through the Buzzolute system developed by Mr. Chaweng Kulchayangkul and Ms. Kannalin Piyanantawarin, Thai's largest FCA GAR. The system is currently expanding worldwide. The primary value of the system is to help people around the world locate their missing piece of life and help them successfully aid themselves to attain their life goals.

Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong Amway

 Story

Direct distributor of Thailand's executive specialist diamond-Bobby

I was born in 1982 and I am 31 years old this year, as old as Anli Taiwan. I used to work in an investment bank in the United States. When I was 21 years old, when I saw a book and wrote that direct selling is the future trend, I searched the Internet and found Anli. I thought Anli was a trustworthy company, but I I didn't do anything, I think there should be a better chance, so I wasted two years. Later, in 2004, I started to devote myself seriously. 

I went to Diamond at the age of 26 and EDC at the age of 28. But we don't think this is a success. We are still working hard! Do you yearn for freedom? Want to work anywhere? Desire to become a legend and inspire others? Anli career can fulfill your dream! We used to be told to work hard, but we forgot why we have to work so tired? We forgot what we are after? Today's young people face a lot of negative resistance, lack of resources, lack of opportunities, and no one believes that we can succeed. 
Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong



Fortunately, now we have Anli! From Time Magazine, I saw that many people are experiencing a "mid-life crisis." If you feel that there are a lot of regrets in this life, and you don't like your current job or your current life, but your life has passed more than half, and you are unable to change, then you may be experiencing a crisis! Don't wait for the crisis to come, whether you are a young man or a little old, as long as you want to change, Anli provides an opportunity to change the future! We are ordinary, but we have created a different life through Anli. Anli Taiwan has been very successful in the past and present, and will be very successful in the future, because there are more and more energetic and energetic young people. I believe you will succeed!

Qualifications

Thailand

  • Platinum - 2005
  • Founders Platinum - 2006
  • Sapphire - 2007
  • Founders Sapphire - 2007
  • Emerald - 2007
  • Founders Emerald - 2007
  • Diamond - 2009
  • Founders Diamond - 2010
  • Executive Diamond - 2011
  • Founders Executive Diamond - 2014
  • Double Diamond - 2014

United States 

  • Platinum - 2011
  • Founders Platinum - 2013
  • Sapphire - 2014
  • Emerald - 2014

Downline Diamonds

  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, Executive Diamond, Thailand | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | thailand
  • Rathee Mangcararangsi & Niyuthtarat Chamapun - (Ninoy & Oeh), Double Diamond, Thailand (2014)
  • Butrpoth Pholpipattanapong - (Park), Diamond, Thailand (2009)
  • Tanat Panitingorn & Panida Tanpradit - (Brian & Emmy), Diamond, Thailand (2011)
  • Kitja Watcharapichat & Chenchira Lamueangrit - (Michael & Jenny), Diamond, Thailand (2013)
  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, United States | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | north america
  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, Vietnam | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | viêt nam
  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, Hong Kong | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | hong kong | 恆發 香港
  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, Australia | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | australia
  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, Taiwan | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | taiwan | 恆发 台灣
  • Bobby Naruss & Nuchie MaHakkapong, Singapore | ⓕ forever and a day ℠ | singapore | 恆发 新加坡

Kulladarom, Rachaya Amway

Khun Rachaya is Thailand's ABO double diamond. She graduated in education from Burapa University. Her first job as a teacher. She entered the Amway business on Ruby ABO's advice: Mr. Thawatchai-Mrs. Benjaporn Thaikiew because she taught at the same school. Initially, Khun Rachaya paid little attention to the business. 

She later got an opportunity to hear about the business plans, and this was how she began to comprehend the Amway business. When she starts with Amway business, she has little time because she works 7 days a week from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. yet she knows that Amway business is straightforward. 

She can work whenever she wants to. And then, she spent much of her leisure time doing more of the Amway company until it became her full-time career.

Khun Rachaya likes her business since it allows her flexibility and freedom, she's master of her own life. She even stops performing business from time to time, without losing income (Her business could stop but her income never stops). The Amway business gave her an opportunity to assist individuals to change their life.

Khun Rachaya's notion of running a successful business is performing the thing that makes us happy and doing our best. She sees every obstacle as a challenge, and from this, we can succeed. "Freedom is a decision-making opportunity."

Kulladarom, Rachaya


Pattaravorakulvong, Supat & Rujiratanalux, Praphaphat Amway

 Parayi Petta Panthirukulam

Parayi Petta Panthirukulam, Kerala's favourite folktale. Vararuchi, one of the nine wise men of Emperor Vikramaditya's (57 BCE- 78 AD) court married a girl from to Paraya, a lower caste. The couple's long trek. On the way, 12 children were blessed. Upon delivery, Vararuchi asked if the baby had a mouth. If the wife responded "yes," he would remark, "God would appease one with mouth" and ask the wife to leave the baby then and there and proceed. Eleven youngsters were deserted, having a mouth. The myth goes that after the 12th birth, when Vararuchi questioned if the infant had a mouth, the wife lied he didn't have a mouth in hopes of raising at least that child. But after stating that, when she looked at kid, the newborn was truly seen born without a mouth. Vararuchi consecrated the 12th kid as a divinity on a hill and went on pilgrimage.

Pattaravorakulvong, Supat & Rujiratanalux, Praphaphat


11 separate families, from diverse parts of society, adopted and raised the 11 abandoned children. Following are the names of families believed to have adopted children:
  • Mezhathol Agnihothri (Namboothiri)
  • Pakkanar (Parayan)
  • Rajakan (Washerman)
  • Naranath Bhranthan [(A divine person who pretend to be mad)Cheruman Caste]
  • Karakkalamma (Royal Kshathriya woman, only girl born to the couple)
  • Akavoor Chathan (Farmer, later became a caretaker)
  • Vaduthala Nair (Nair Soldier)
  • Thiruvalluvan/Valluvan/Vallon (Pulaya)
  • Uppukottan (Muslim trader)
  • Paananaar (folk musician)
  • Perumthachan (Engineer, Architect)
  • Vayillakkunnilappan, (Hill Lord without mouth) the 12th child was born without a mouth. Vararuchi consecrated this child on a hill in Palakkad district of Kerala, which is now known as "Vaayillaakkunnilappan temple" .
People with family names and caste affiliations accounted in the folktale, thought to be Vararuchi's ancestors, live in Kerala state's Shoranur, Pattambi and Thrithala district of Palakkad. Despite the significant disparity in caste and social rankings, rituals and religious customs usually bind these families together.

Malayalam poem

The following poems in Malayalam of anonymous origin and undetermined antiquity detail the names of Vararuchi's twelve offspring and his wife Panchami, the ancestors of the twelve legendary Panthirukulam clans. 


Kornsakoo, Absorn & Sommai Amway

 Korsakoff syndrome

Korsakoff syndrome (KS)[1] is an amnestic condition induced by thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency generally coupled with persistent use of alcohol. [2] The illness and psychosis are named after Sergei Korsakoff, the Russian neuropsychiatrist who identified it during the late 19th century.

This neurological condition is caused by a shortage of thiamine in the brain, and is also exacerbated by the neurotoxic effects of alcohol. When Wernicke encephalopathy accompanies Korsakoff disease the combination is called Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome; however, an episode of Wernicke encephalopathy is not usually observed
Kornsakoo, Absorn & Sommai


Signs and symptoms

  • Seven key symptoms of Korsakoff syndrome, an amnestic-confabulatory syndrome:
  • Anterograde amnesia, memory loss after syndrome onset
  • Retrograde amnesia, memory loss extends some time before symptoms starts
  • Fixation amnesia called fixation amnesia (loss of immediate memory, a person being unable to remember events of the past few minutes)
  • Confabulation, i.e. fabricated memories that are then considered true due to memory gaps, occasionally related with blackouts
  • Minimum conversation content
  • Missing insight
  • Apathy - interest in things is rapidly lost, indifference to change

Benon R. and LeHuché R. (1920) reported the classic indications of Korsakoff syndrome with some additional symptoms including: confabulation (false memories), fixing amnesia, paragnosis or false location awareness, mental excitement, and euphoria.

Thiamine is needed for pyruvate decarboxylation, and shortage during this metabolic process is hypothesised to induce damage to the post-hypothalamus medial thalamus and mammary bodies as well as generalised cerebral atrophy.

These brain areas are all elements of the limbic system involved in emotion and memory.

KS involves neuronal loss, i.e. neuronal injury; gliosis resulting from injury to supporting central nervous system cells, and bleeding also occurs in mammary bodies. Damage to the thalamus medial dorsal nucleus (limbic-specific nuclei) is also related with this illness. Cortical dysfunction may result from thiamine shortage, alcohol neurotoxicity, and/or diencephalon structural damage. [8] [8]

Originally, a lack of initiative and a flat effect were regarded to be essential aspects of emotional presentation in sufferers. Studies questioned this, suggesting that neither is necessarily KS symptom. Research suggesting emotionally unimpaired people with Korsakoff syndrome made this a controversial topic. It might be argued that indifference, a common feature, shows a shortage of emotional expressiveness without impacting emotional experience or perception. [9] [9]

KS induces declarative memory loss in most people[10] but leaves implicit spatial, linguistic and procedural memory intact.

 People with KS lack contextual information processing. Context memories refers to where and when experiences, and is a crucial aspect of memory. It impairs the ability to store and recall this information, such as geographical location or chronological order information. 

 Research has also revealed that persons with Korsakoff syndrome have poor executive functioning that might cause behavioural issues and impede with day-to-day activities. But it's unclear which executive functions are most affected. 

However, IQ is usually not impaired by Korsakoff's syndrome-related brain injury. 

Initially, it was considered that persons with KS used confabulation to fill memory gaps. Confabulation and amnesia, however, have not necessarily co-occurred. Studies showed dissociation between induced confabulation, spontaneous (unprovoked) confabulation, and false recollections.  That is, persons affected could be induced to believe that certain things had happened that hadn't happened, but those without Korsakoff syndrome could

Causes

Thiamine deficiency and its symptoms include prolonged drunkenness and severe starvation.  Alcoholism may co-occur with inadequate nutrition, causing thiamine deficiency in addition to stomach lining irritation.  Other causes include nutritional deficits, persistent vomiting, eating problems, chemotherapy effects. It can also occur in pregnant women with intense morning sickness known as hyperemesis gravidarum. Mercury poisoning can potentially cause Korsakoff syndrome.  Although it doesn't usually co-occur, it can frequently emerge as a consequence effect of Wernicke's encephalopathy. 

PET scans demonstrate a reduction in glucose metabolism in brain frontal, parietal, and cingulated regions in people with Korsakoff syndrome. This may cause memory loss and amnesia. Structural neuroimaging also showed midline diencephalic lesions and cortical atrophy. 

Structural central nervous system lesions, however rare, can also contribute to KS symptoms. Severe dorsal nucleus injury inevitably results in memory loss. Additionally, autopsies of persons with KS indicated midline and anterior thalamus lesions and thalamic infarctions. Bilateral thalamus infarctions can also cause Korsakoff-induced amnesia. These findings may result in disruptive memory impairment to anterior thalamic nuclei.

Risk factors

Many variables may raise a person's risk of developing Korsakoff syndrome. These elements often relate to overall health and diet.
  • Age
  • Alcoholism
  • Chemotherapy
  • Dialysis
  • Extreme dieting
  • Genetic factors

Diagnosis

KS is primarily a clinical diagnosis; imaging and lab tests are not necessary.

Prevention

The most effective way to prevent AKS is to avoid vitamin/thiamine deficiency B. In Western nations, the most common causes are drinking and eating problems.  Because they are causes of behaviour, Korsakoff syndrome is essentially considered a preventable condition. Thus, strengthening thiamine foods, or requiring corporations selling alcoholic beverages to enhance them with B vitamins in general or thiamine in particular, could avert many cases. 

Treatment

Once expected that someone with KS would eventually need full-time care. This is still frequently the case, though rehabilitation can help restore some, if often limited, independence. Treatment requires replacing or supplementing intravenous or intramuscular thiamine with sufficient nutrition and hydration. However, disease-caused amnesia and brain damage does not usually respond to thiamine replacement therapy.

 Drug therapy is sometimes advised. Treatment normally needs 3-12 months of oral thiamine, however only approximately 20 percent of cases are recoverable. If treatment is successful, improvements will emerge within two years, although recovery is sluggish and generally incomplete.

As an urgent form of treatment, a pairing of IV or IM thiamine with high concentration of B-complex vitamins can be given three times daily for 2-3 days. In most cases, an effective reaction is observed. A dose of 1 gramme thiamine may also be given for clinical response. In those who are very malnourished, the rapid availability of glucose without sufficient thiamine levels to digest is thought to induce cell damage. Thus, thiamine supplementation and intravenous glucose are often effective practise. 

KS memory aspect treatment may also include domain-specific learning, which, when applied for rehabilitation, is called the vanishing signs approach. They try to use intact memory processes as the basis for rehabilitation. Those who used therapy's method of disappearing signs were shown to absorb and retain material more quickly. 

People diagnosed with KS have normal life expectancy, assuming they refrain from alcohol and follow a balanced diet. Empirical evidence suggests that health behaviours have beneficial impact on Korsakoff syndrome. 

Epidemiology

Tariffs vary across countries, but an estimated 12.5% of strong drinkers are affected.




The Churn?

The Churn?

How the upline diamonds generate their money is something that many Amway members and prospects are absolutely unaware of. They are informed that they may make money by acquiring their own Amway items and convincing others to imitate or do the same. While the diamonds' credentials may be preserved as a result of this, the actual money is made in the sale of tools and functions.

The profit margins on tools and functions are higher than on Amway items, and because rank and file IBOs are not part of the reward scheme, the earnings go completely to the diamonds and higher ups. A function, for example, may probably be performed for a few dollars per head, yet the diamonds demand more than a hundred dollars for these functions. Even virtual functions are still being executed at full price, according to what I've heard. This demonstrates the upline's avarice once again.

It's no secret that most IBOs in Amway don't last a year, owing to the futility of creating an Amway business, as well as the financial losses that come with it. As a result, the diamonds must take advantage of what is known as "the churn." Simply said, you bring individuals into Amway and connect them to the tools and services that the company offers. As a result, the diamonds benefit till these newcomers give up. Meanwhile, the focus is on continuing to hire new employees to replace those who have left.

Consider the following scenario. If diamonds continued to emerge from the system, they would be one share holder in the tool and function profits, but if a diamond can just keep replacing quitters, the earnings from tools and functions would remain completely in their wallets, and no one will be the wiser. Sure, they need a fresh diamond now and then to prove that the system works, but Amway's general success record is dismal at best.

So, if you're considering joining Amway or are already an IBO, re-read this page and attempt to think about it with an open mind. Then you'll be able to see right through the upline diamonds' smoke and mirrors.

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Submit To Upline?

Submit To Upline?

The submission to upline is another cultish doctrine that derives from upline diamonds. It's sometimes referred to as being teachable, but as you become more engaged in the system, you'll be required to check with your upline on everything, including major life decisions like getting married or purchasing a new vehicle. In retrospect, I believe it's because your upline doesn't want you to make decisions that will prevent you from purchasing tools.

However, they make it seem innocent, claiming that monitoring upline may benefit you since upline has business knowledge and can inform you how certain actions would affect your firm. Although it appears to be innocent, your upline is more than likely teaching you this for their personal gain rather than yours. If you recognize the game, you'll be able to see through the nonsense of upline training.

Some uplines go so far as to “counsel” their subordinates. Imagine submitting to someone for such life-changing choices, and your upline's qualification for doing so is that they joined Amway before you. You might be a counsellor, but you'd be counselled by someone further down the chain with fewer qualifications just because they joined Amway before you.

My upline told me to leave my fiancée because I could expand the business quicker and if I achieved diamond, ladies would line up to pursue a single diamond when I was an IBO back in the 1990s. That was the final straw for me because I had already smelt a rat with regards to Amway teaching.

At the time, I was a 4000 PV IBO, so I notified my group about what had transpired and that I had decided to leave Amway as a result of it. With the exception of one or two IBOs in my downline, everyone in my group walked out when I did. So my sponsor and upline fell from direct distributor to less than 4000 PV, and I don't think he ever requalified at that level again.

My sponsor was still active as recently as 2016, but I don't know if he's still seeking Amway. Given that he was a physician, I believe his life was squandered on Amway. It's complete nonsense to submit to your upline.

No Crosslining?

No Crosslining?

No crosslinking was one of the extremely dumb and hypocritical things that upline taught the group. In other words, you weren't supposed to talk about business with other business owners if you had a different sponsor or upline diamond. This is ridiculous because talking to other small company owners is an excellent method to learn new strategies and gain advice.

Why are IBOs required to attend (and pay for) meetings when a cross-line diamond is speaking if that is not the case? Why would IBOs pay for audios of cross-line speakers telling them about the company? The assumption is that the cross line doesn't have a direct stake in your Amway firm, but it appears that cross lining is ok as long as your upline benefits.

The true reason the diamonds don't want you talking to others is that the entire truth could be revealed. That you may have devoted yourself to Amway and the methods for years, doing all that was expected of you, only to lose money. Or that you followed your upline's instructions to the letter but were still unable to sponsor a single downline.

Another possibility is that the rank and file will compare what they've been taught and realize they've been duped. I once had a conversation with a cross-line IBO, and it was then that I realized how ridiculous some of our methods were. In the ancient days, I was an IBO who would take orders and pick up the merchandise. Because you had to travel to your sponsor's house and read off your list while they filled your order, our group's practice took hours and hours. My cross-line acquaintance said that their upline simply put everything in a box and recorded everything that had not yet been completed. You paid and were gone in a matter of minutes.

As a result, this is merely another example of upline's poor business practices being taught and maintained. But the fundamental reason is that they don't want the employees to speak up about what's actually going on in the company. When you're being taught this way, you're better off running as fast as you can in the opposite direction. 

The policy of not permitting any electrical, plumbing, or HVAC lines to cross over each other is referred to as "no crosslining," and the term "no crosslining" is a term that refers to the practice. It is a fundamental idea that underpins both the design and construction of buildings and serves the purpose of assuring the security and effectiveness of building systems.


Crosslining is an issue since it can result in safety hazards such as electrical fires, water leaks, or gas leaks. Additionally, crosslining can waste time and money. In addition to this, it may lead to an inefficient use of space because crossing lines may reduce one's capacity to access or service particular systems. Because of this, maintaining a structure in accordance with the "no crosslining" principle is essential to ensuring its durability and security.


Crosslining can increase the chance of electrical shorts, which can lead to fires if they occur in the context of electrical lines. It is possible for electrical wires to become damaged due to heat, moisture, or corrosion if they cross over plumbing or HVAC lines, which can lead to potential electrical dangers. When installing electrical lines, electricians are required to adhere to stringent guidelines and ensure that no other systems are blocking the path of the electrical lines in order to reduce the likelihood of the risks described above.


of a similar vein, crosslining of plumbing lines might result in major difficulties for the homeowner. In the case that there is an electrical short or failure, for instance, a water supply line that passes over an electrical line can result in damage to the water supply in the event of the electrical short. If, on the other hand, a drain line were to cross over an electrical line, this may result in water leaks in addition to potential electrical concerns. Because of this, plumbers are required to construct plumbing lines in accordance with stringent requirements and must guarantee that the lines do not intersect with those of other systems.


In the case of heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC), the no crosslining concept also applies. If HVAC lines, such as ducts or pipes, cross over other systems, they run the risk of becoming obstructed or damaged. This can result in inefficient heating or cooling, increased energy consumption, and higher operating costs. In addition, if the piping for the HVAC system is not installed correctly, it may result in the accumulation of mold or other pollutants, both of which may pose a threat to a person's health. Because of this, HVAC professionals have a responsibility to guarantee that their systems are installed properly and that they do not interfere with the functioning of other systems.


In a nutshell, adhering to the "no crosslining" guideline is critical to guaranteeing the security and efficacy of the various construction systems. It is of the utmost importance that all experts involved in the design and construction of buildings adhere to stringent standards and regulations in order to avoid the crossing of lines that control the building's electrical, plumbing, or HVAC systems. By following to these principles, we will be able to design and construct long-lasting structures that are secure, energy-efficient, and environmentally friendly.


Duplication in Amway?

Duplication in Amway?

My Amway upline diamond used to tell me that replication, or copying, is the secret to success. He'd compare it to being in elementary school and duplicating someone else's answers, and say that if you can master that one ability, you'll be successful in Amway. Even what downline IBOs do should be duplicable, according to what upline would say, which means that others should be able to imitate it.

Isn't that charming and straightforward? Simply replicate as if you were at school, peering over the shoulder of the class genius. Isn't it simple and clear forward? However, it is clear that this notion does not function. If it did, the rank-and-file IBOs would be cranking out a lot of success on a regular basis. Instead, we witness a revolving door of employees arriving and departing (quitting) without earning a net profit or losing money, which is usually due to company costs such as tools and functions.

And it's no surprise that duplication doesn't work in practise due to the system's flaws. You're purchasing and/or selling things that are relatively obscure and generic in nature, yet are being offered at high costs. That isn't to imply that all Amway items are awful or that they aren't worth buying, but you can get a better deal at Costco or WalMart. It's difficult to disagree with that unless you're a completely committed and brainwashed IBO.

In general, most upline training involves “core” stages for IBOs to follow, which, while not sophisticated, are challenging to follow. Finding others who are willing to see the plan or sell things to you is very challenging, and you can't just copy yourself to success. IBOs, on the other hand, can listen to audios, read books, purchase their de facto 100 PV allotment, and participate in all meetings and events.

Unfortunately, the processes that are easy to copy or replicate are the ones that cost IBOs money, while the stages that are critical to growth, such as selling items and demonstrating the strategy, are almost hard to duplicate. In a nutshell, this is why the great majority of IBOs in the Amway business opportunity either lose money or make no money. And that, in my opinion, is a well-informed viewpoint.

Charge Yourself Full Retail Price?

Charge Yourself Full Retail Price?

As an IBO, one of the most ridiculous ideas I heard was that IBOs should buy their own things from their Amway firm and charge full price. As a result, the difference between the IBO and full retail prices is your profit, which you may bank and utilize to purchase tools and function tickets. That was a mind-boggling experience for me.

Some IBOs are taken in by this nonsense and have even taught it to others. When you buy things for yourself, you're utilizing your own money, which means your money has moved from one account to another. That isn't a way to make money. Well, I suppose an IBO may be duped into believing that shifting money from your savings account to your checking account is profitable.

Let's say you get double x for $50 off the IBO pricing, but the full retail price is $85. You have now made a profit of $35 in theory. You're meant to put that profit into tools and functionalities, but what difference does it make if it's all coming out of your pocket? You may pay for double x first and then pay for your functions and tools afterward. Moving money from one account to another suddenly generates taxable income because of the retail profit claim (profits are taxable).

As a result, teaching is essentially risky since it exacerbates an IBO's existing negative cash flow. And to think, I paid money to attend a seminar where they taught this nonsense. On the plus side, this was the point at which I began to smell a rat in terms of upline instruction. This is in addition to the junk that was sent to the upline.

Diamonds, I'm sure, are still pushing tools and functions, so I'm sure they're teaching downline how to raise cash in some fashion. It's probable that these falsehoods about paying yourself are still going on. It is my goal that this blog article would assist unwary IBOs and prospects in seeing through the nonsense taught by their uplines.

Amway Saves Marriages?

Amway Saves Marriages?

 Looking back, one of the very ridiculous things diamonds taught was that Amway helps marriages. Of course, I'm sure they didn't survey the rank and file IBOs who may have divorced, some of whom may have done so as a result of Amway. Lack of funds is a common source of stress in marriages, therefore the monthly negative cashflow for most “serious” IBOs may have a significant impact on the health of a marriage.

The diamonds would argue that working together in business strengthens a marriage, and although this may be true to some extent, I feel that business and associated pursuits are damaging to relationships in general. You must also account for social activities that are missed as a result of your commitment to the Amway business, such as birthday parties, barbecues with friends, and so on.

I also overheard a diamond claim that Amway IBOs had a 2% divorce rate, whereas the rest of the population had a divorce rate of more than 50%. Of course, that is just nonsense. I can think of a few jewels from our own LOS - line of sponsorship - that have been divorced. Wolgamott, Danzik, Kosage, and Brooks are the names of the characters in Wolgamott, Danzik, Kosage, and Brooks Given that there aren't 200 US WWDB diamonds that I'm aware of, the divorce rate can't be less than 2%, and there are certainly other pins who have divorced as well.

I generally wouldn't care because people divorce in this day and age, but because the diamonds make a big deal out of it, I though I'd point out the hypocrisy. This does not include divorces filed using the WWDB rank and file system. I'm familiar of a few others, but I won't name them here.

No, Amway does not save marriages, and if your upline attempts to sell you on it, don't believe them.

Amway Is Simple?

Amway Is Simple?

Another point brought up by upline was Amway's simplicity. Amway is so simple to join that even a dog could become a direct distributor, according to some upline. However, the majority of the diamonds would argue that Amway is straightforward, but not necessarily “easy.” What exactly does that imply?

It is simple in the sense that anyone can do it. It's really basic and simple, like a child's puzzle, yet it's not always "easy" for a youngster. When it comes to the Amway company, it boils down to three simple steps: buy some products, sell some products, and sponsor downline. Amway is indeed "simple" in this regard. Do you think it's easy to purchase, sell, and sponsor people in your downline? On the surface, it doesn't appear to be all that complex.

So, if Amway is as straightforward as upline and the diamonds claim, why do you need an inexhaustible amount of tools and functions? I don't think that an IBO doesn't require any training or coaching, but why would you need all that training for a business that is meant to be "simple"?

I recall having a talk with my upline, who was, at the time (I was an IBO in the 1990s), heavily promoting cassettes. I inquired as to what would happen if you had all of the cassettes on the list. He explained to me that you keep buying them because recordings pay for individuals to appear on them. That was a mind-boggling experience for me. I've never heard of somebody becoming sponsored after listening to a recording. It was, in my opinion, nothing more than a blatant attempt to sell additional tools.

I've heard that IBOs are now giving downline audios/cds and even paying for certain downlines to attend activities, but this just serves to exacerbate the losses of loyal IBOs. They're extorting more money from loyal Amway supporters until the upline can persuade the prospects and downline to become "genuine company owners" who cover their own costs. It's no huge concern for the diamonds who don't want to spend money on their downline.

It's disheartening that this behavior persists. If you're a potential or present IBO, you should be cautious.

Amway Has Low Overhead?

Amway Has Low Overhead?

 Low overhead (essentially, company expenditures) and the chance to generate rapid profits were two of the selling elements for the Amway business. Is this, however, accurate or is it simply another deception told by the diamonds? Basically, when you're sold on Amway, you're told that you can earn money by selling things and that you can save money by purchasing from yourself.

Then Amway makes sense because you specified little or no overhead costs. But it's all just a gimmick since the upline diamond will sell you overhead after that. To put it another way, they'll persuade you that buying tools and functions is absolutely necessary. When I questioned this as a possibility, I was informed that so and so the diamond was a multi-millionaire who believes that tools are as important as breathing oxygen, but that I was free to do it alone and achieve where no one else had (without tools).

This is a complete falsehood because the tools are your principal business cost, or overhead, in the Amway operation. Even if you sell a few things to real consumers for a profit, you'll almost certainly end up with a net loss because the continued usage of tools and functions might be costly over time. Many former IBOs have stated that if you stay committed to the system and the instruction, you can lose thousands of dollars in a matter of months, if not more.

Now, if the system was consistently producing success stories, the expense of tools and functions would be justified. Diamonds will show you samples of new platinum or another pin to attempt to upsell you, but they will not indicate that a number of other major pins may have failed to requalify for their current price levels. If you look at Amway's revenues over the previous several years, you'll notice that they've been flat or declining, indicating that the company hasn't been expanding.

So, what does all of this imply? Simply said, if you join Amway and engage in the system of tools and functions, it is quite likely, if not certain, that you will experience a net loss of money. I can only guess that state or municipal limitations are hindering the ability to recruit downline or approach people to sell items with Covid 19. If you read this and still decide to join, I wish you the best of luck.

Where’s The Wealth?

Where’s The Wealth?

Amway diamonds like demonstrating the diamond lifestyle. But, what exactly is the diamond way of life? It's essentially a display of excessive affluence. They are said to travel in first class and stay in five-star hotels all over the world. They allegedly dress in fashionable clothes and spend all of their money on fancy vehicles and residences. They come and go as they like, and they only work for their down line because they care about them.

At least, that's the tale they want you to believe when you're at a meeting or a social gathering. There are some poor saps in the audience who are so desperate for it that they are crying. It surely motivates you to put in more effort and get your company growing and exciting.

I hate to break it to IBOs and prospects, but I seriously doubt that any diamond lives like that unless they are in debt to the point of bankruptcy. Showing you a middle-class lifestyle, on the other hand, wouldn't be nearly as fascinating. What evidence do I have that this is true? It's as simple as that; simply add and subtract.

An average diamond used to earn around $150k per year, but today a Q12 diamond earns $600k per year, according to Amway. A Q12 diamond, on the other hand, is extremely uncommon, accounting for only a minuscule percentage of all diamonds produced. As a result, the average diamond makes roughly $150k per year in addition to revenues from tools and functions. Even if they make an additional $100k from tools and functions, they will have a total income of around $250,000.

That's a good income if the diamond is currently qualified, though Amway doesn't specify who is and who isn't. If they are qualified, taxes, medical insurance, and other charges, as well as business expenditures, are likely to consume more than half of their earnings.


Let's imagine a diamond earns $10,000 a month after all of the expenditures I listed, and trust me when I say I'm being nice. You can't purchase a house in cash on that income, therefore you'll almost certainly have a mortgage. If a person pays $3000 every month for a mortgage, they will have $7000 left over at the end of the year. A sports automobile is not something you purchase with cash.


If the children attend a private school, additional money is lost. How much would you spend on a wonderful trip if you were only allowed to fly in first class and stay in five-star hotels? A diamond, in my opinion, has a middle-class existence. I believe that some of the higher-ranking pins, such as crowns, live better than the rest of the diamonds, but if you knew the reality, the remainder of the diamonds' lifestyle would undoubtedly impress you.

What Is An Ambot?

What Is An Ambot?

 I've seen the term "ambot" used to describe an Amway IBO who is frequently new but has learned enough to repeat the lines fed to them by their upline diamonds. If you've ever been approached by Amway, you'll understand what I'm talking about. The teaching changes from time to time, but the message stays largely the same. They tried to relate the Amway possibility to a buyers club for a time, but it eventually morphed into e-commerce.

The diamonds will train you to consume tools and functions as if your life was on the line. What occurs is that the training and "false" connections you build become nearly addictive, and you feel compelled to keep them up. Isn't it true that nothing beats a pat on the back from your upline diamond? IBOs have a strong desire to be recognised by the diamond.

Meanwhile, the IBOs are trained to worship the diamond, almost as if it were a cult leader to be revered. The IBOs all dress identically and frequently purchase items from the Amway catalog. It's almost as though the diamonds are simply cloning the loyal lower line. When you take a step back and look at it objectively, it's actually rather humorous. Another factor is an unreasonable need for things like toilet paper or cleaning supplies.

However, the Amway sales force is frequently an army of mind-numbing robots, all of whom act, dress, and repeat lines taught at gatherings, meetings, and on recorded audios. Because uplines like to have late night sessions to test your devotion, they are frequently sleep deprived. When you go diamond, it's said that you can sleep.

So that's all there is to it. An Ambot is defined in a short yet simple manner. The sad reality is that once someone has been brainwashed, there is nothing you can do to help them. They will have to see the light and snap out of it on their own. Debating with them simply serves to strengthen their resolve, since they will have acquired an illogical allegiance to their upline over long-time friends and relatives.

This would be more amusing if it wasn't so sad and true.

Watching The Simpsons?

Watching The Simpsons?

One of the amusing things our upline taught us was that broke losers would be at home watching episodes of the Simpsons while the rest of us worked hard to establish our business and secure our futures. People's homes would emit a blue glow, indicating that they were watching television, which he would find amusing.

That would be great if Amway IBOs were actually generating money, but the truth is that practically every rank and file IBO was losing money due to Amway business expenses like standing orders, books, and functions. The IBOs were not only losing money, but they were also wasting their time. They, on the other hand, believed they were doing something nice and worthwhile.

The ultimate irony of it all is that folks who were sitting at home watching "The Simpsons" were better off because they were entertained and not losing money in a phoney enterprise created to extort money from rank and file distributors for the benefit of the diamonds. It's great that you're striving to safeguard your financial future, but losing money doesn't seem to provide much security, does it?

That is the element of Amway that is the most insidious. The diamonds want to convince you that anyone can join and become a diamond, but this is simply not the case. A big collection of IBOs with a platinum or direct distributor can be seen in the popular 6-4/2 plan or similar forms. That will continue to be the case. There's one guy at the top, and a lot of rank-and-file people underneath him.

The gems sell you on your aspirations, wants, and dreams because reality stinks. The bad news is that an IBO's engagement in the tools and activities only benefits the diamonds, who profit handsomely from your participation.

Success Is Around The Corner?

Success Is Around The Corner?

 In Amway, I recall being instructed that you should never give up or quit. They would tell inspirational and feel-good stories of people who persevered and eventually succeeded, such as Rudy's story, which was made into a movie. Or they'd talk about a hard-charging competitor like Michael Jordan, who would never give up. They would fight on, and you should never give up because victory could be around the corner, and you could stop a little too soon if you don't, so keep going!

Sports, on the other hand, are not the same as a business. Rudy was a member of the Notre Dame football team, although he never saw much action, despite the movie's encouraging climax. Michael Jordan will never give up, but he was still a part of losing teams. However, the Amway company is not a sport, and while having a never-say-die mentality is admirable, if you aren't generating a profit and your chances for growth are bleak, you should consider quitting. Never quitting is simply a lousy business decision.

Michael Jordan has been on teams that have lost games, yet his team has the ability to regroup and win the next game. The same may be stated for a company. If you're not making money and your cash flow is negative, closing up shop and doing something else is sometimes the best option. The goal, after all, is to make money. It doesn't have to be from Amway entirely. Even if it is a profession, there are a plethora of alternative options for you to investigate and experiment with.

The diamonds try to persuade you that you can only build money and riches if you join Amway. This is completely untrue. You have no idea whether or not your upline diamond is wealthy. You presume they're affluent because you've been told they are, but they don't provide any evidence to back up your assumption. It's possible that they're in debt to the point of bankruptcy. There are a lot of people in debt in the United States. Why should diamonds with opulent lifestyles be any different? It's no secret that many wealthy individuals don't behave wealthy, and the inverse is also true: broke individuals can try to appear wealthy.

After all, why not? Even if you are a broke rank and file IBO, you must dress up for meetings in order to project a successful image. Who's to say the diamonds won't do the same thing, although with a few more pricey props? Showing photocopies of large checks is not a reliable measure of success, despite what your upline would have you believe.

Never Quit!

Never Quit!

Never quitting is one of the realist dumb things taught by upline. They'll tell you inspiring stories of extraordinary people who overcame adversity and eventually found success. They may claim that Michael Jordan, the legendary basketball player, would never quit.

A basketball game and a business, on the other hand, are two very different things. Michael Jordan may have never quit in basketball, but the game must finally come to a conclusion so that you may recover and move on to the next one. The teams will tweak their strategies in order to improve their performance in the upcoming match.

In Amway, on the other hand, your upline will encourage you to never quit without first examining your own business. What will happen in order for you to become profitable if you are losing money month after month? Are you looking for methods to save costs or create new sources of income? If you don't, you'll be stuck with a negative cash flow for the rest of your life.

Upline doesn't want you to quit because a dedicated IBO moves PV volume and is a frequent customer of the tools and functions that upline sells and earns from, not because they want you to succeed. It's for the benefit of the system's uplines to keep you in it. That's why they'll often tell you to ignore facts or overlook issues because your absence will harm their cash flow.

At the end of the day, be honest with yourself. What changes are you going to make if you aren't producing a net profit? Typically, your upline may advise you to purchase more tools, but this will only exacerbate your losses.

Consider it this way: leaving Amway doesn't mean you've given up on attempting to improve your financial situation; it simply means you're looking for a more effective approach to make more money. Try something else if Amway isn't paying off for you. It's a matter of life and death for you.

My Upline Is A Mentor?

My Upline Is A Mentor?

One of the more amusing things Amway IBOs discuss is their upline's role as a mentor. It's amusing to me because a no mentor is someone who stands on a stage. A mentor develops a personal relationship with the individual they are assisting, and they are likely to spend a significant amount of time with them.

Another point that IBOs neglect is the fact that mentors do not charge their students for their assistance. This is just another BS line thrown on the die line by the upline diamonds to make themselves feel better. My time spent at gatherings or major meetings isn't even close to being comparable to mentorship. Even if you were fortunate enough to spend time with your upline diamond, you are still spending money on tools and functions. An IBO who was not serious enough to invest in tools and functions would never be given time by a diamond.

I'm interested in what specifics a diamond would teach a dice line, because the things that IBOs repeat seem absurd and out of the left field, to put it that way. I got into a discussion with an IBO who said that the facts don't matter because he has a big dream. Another IBO said to me that even if he buys from himself, he still makes money since he charges himself full retail price for things, therefore he makes money. Moving money from your savings account to your company account, as I previously stated, is not actual profit. Not to mention the fact that the money you transferred from one account to another is now taxed.

The diamond's major theme will always be to get you to participate in the tools and functions so that they can profit from you, and then, due to the sunken cost fallacy, some IBOs may not want to quit despite losing money month after month because you've already invested in the business.

The fact remains that a diamond's connection with an IBO is not one of mentorship and studentship. The upline is more akin to a salaried consultant who, unfortunately, produces poor outcomes. This is unquestionably true.

Get Rich Slow?

Get Rich Slow?

Amway is not a get-rich-quick programme, according to one of the lies made by upline diamonds. It's more likely that you'll get rich slowly in Amway if you do this. They probably say that because stating outright that Amway is a get-rich-quick scheme would elicit mistrust from many people. Some of Amway's upline diamonds' training has already sparked suspicion, although the company is being cautious about this.

But what do you name it when the opportunity is offered as 2-5 years, build it well, and you can be financially independent for the rest of your life, living off residual income and retiring at a young age? To me, 2-5 years appears to be a get-rich-quick scheme. Aside from other MLMs, no other business prospects make estimates like this.

But the truth is that it's extremely improbable that you'll make a profit in Amway, let alone establish a business that generates money. The majority of IBOs do little or nothing and eventually give up. In these circumstances, how can you create a business that provides recurring revenue? You don't, to be precise.

Consider Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) as visitors to a theme park. They get aboard a bus after purchasing a ticket. Some passengers are satisfied and exit the journey to go somewhere else. Some people become addicted and continue to buy more tickets in order to ride again. The riders may have enjoyed themselves, and some may have experienced motion sickness, but in the end, the diamonds are like the ride operators who profit from the rides, while Amway is like the amusement park owner who owns the rides.

At the end of the day, the upline diamonds don't care who comes and departs as long as new individuals are joining the company. The diamonds understand that the majority of people will not do much, but they hope that they will purchase some things and audios and attend a few events. The upline will also express gratitude to their core IBOs who provide them with a steady income.

But, aside from Amway's owners, few people are actually wealthy, and this includes diamonds, in my opinion. They may have good salaries, but flaunting a diamond lifestyle may be costly, and spending one's earnings does not make one wealthy. It'll be perfectly clear after you do the arithmetic.

Fake It Till You Make It?

Fake It Till You Make It?

As an IBO, one of the most amusing things I heard was to "fake it till you make it." The upline implied that we were to appear successful because, if we didn't quit, we would eventually be successful. What it truly meant was lying and misrepresenting the Amway business to provide the impression of success when you weren't.

As an example, you might attend an Amway meeting or party where everyone is dressed up in business clothes, giving the impression of success, but if you arrive early, you'll notice IBOs arriving in ancient clunkers, some of which appear to be on their last legs. However, it's incredible that the dreams they were sold were enough to fuel their drive to create Amway.

Sort and file the information. Due to the fact that IBOs have little to no credibility, the upline will frequently offer a photocopy of a hefty bonus check that someone may have gotten. The cheque is no guarantee of success, and the individual who receives it may or may not have made a net profit, but it all fits into the fake it until you make it storey.

The unfortunate reality is that almost all IBOs will try but never succeed. At best, the math underpinning Amway's success is abysmal. The typical 6-4-2 plan depicts a group of 79 IBOs who have all moved 100 PV (which is impossible), with one guy at 7500 PV and the rest at lower levels. Amway's own disclosures, as far as I can tell, suggest that. About 1 in 400 IBOs, or 26%, achieve platinum status.

At the end of the day, it's all about you. You can pretend to be someone else, but you won't be able to pull it off. A few people do manage to attain diamond despite practically impossible odds every now and then, but the number of diamond achievers is statistically negligible. If you've read this and are still considering joining Amway, I wish you the best of luck.

"Fake it till you make it" is a term that has been used in a variety of situations to urge individuals to act as if they already possess the characteristics or talents that they aim to possess. This can be accomplished by acting as if one already possesses the quality or ability in question. This term has been utilized by certain distributors in the Amway industry as a method to improve their perceived success, even if their actual results are inadequate. Despite this, the phrase continues to be used.

The expression "fake it till you make it" refers to the strategy of creating an impression of success and self-assurance in order to increase the likelihood that others will follow your lead or conduct business with you. For instance, an Amway distributor may rent a luxury car, wear costly clothing, or take elaborate trips in order to give the idea that they are wealthy and successful, even if they have not yet made large earnings from their Amway business. This can be done even if the distributor is still in the beginning stages of building their Amway business.

However, despite the fact that this strategy may on occasion be fruitful in terms of bringing in new clients or members of one's downline, it also carries with it the potential for loss. If a distributor spends more money than they can afford to maintain this facade, it can lead to financial issues and undermine their credibility with their team. If a distributor spends more money than they can afford to maintain this facade, it can lead to financial problems. In addition, if the Amway distributor does not have actual knowledge of the Amway products or business plan, it may be difficult for them to keep clients and establish a business that is financially sustainable.

In addition, the idea that "fake it till you make it" might be seen as immoral or manipulative by certain individuals. It has the potential to give people unrealistic expectations and lead them to believe that being successful in the Amway company is simple or inevitable. When new customers or distributors become aware of the realities of the business, this can set them up for feelings of disappointment and disillusionment.

The ultimate factors that determine whether or not an Amway business will be successful are the owner's level of dedication, level of knowledge, and the authenticity of their relationships with both customers and downline members. It is crucial to stay genuine and honest about one's true outcomes and capabilities, even though it may be beneficial to project a favorable image and demonstrate confidence.


Diamonds Rolling In Dough?

Diamonds Rolling In Dough?

The vast majority of IBOs and prospects believe that the diamonds are extremely wealthy, that they roll in dollars, and that the money never runs out. They are, in my opinion, greatly misguided. A Q 12 diamond makes roughly $600,000 from Amway, according to the company. A Q12 diamond, on the other hand, indicates that they were qualified at the level for the entire fiscal year of Amway. Only a small percentage of Amway diamonds are Q12 diamonds.

The majority of Amway diamonds do not qualify for Q 12. According to Amway, the average diamond earns around $150k each year in profits, plus a good $100k in tools and functions. Now, while $250k is a good income, let's say a diamond clears $10,000 a month after taxes, medical insurance, and other monthly costs. That's still a respectable sum.

However, $10,000 each month is insufficient for a family to buy a house in cash, let alone a top-of-the-line Mercedes Benz. Even flying first class every time you travel could put a strain on your finances. It would prevent you from partaking in the jet-set lifestyle that diamonds are known for displaying at meetings and functions.

Diamonds enjoying a middle-to-upper-middle-class lifestyle, with their main work being running functions and growing the Amway company, are more realistically depicted. Now, though this may not sound as glamorous as the diamond lifestyle shown at parties, it appears to be more realistic. In fact, diamonds who strive to flaunt their riches and elegance all of the time could easily find themselves in debt, although having a good income.

Many people in the United States are unable to pay their bills. It doesn't matter if you make a lot of money. Some diamonds whose salaries have been published in the past have indicated that they are in debt, including a triple diamond who filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy roughly ten years ago. Promoting Amway as a way to acquire a middle-class lifestyle, on the other hand, is unlikely to be as successful as creating the appearance of a diamond lifestyle.

Building Your Business?

Building Your Business?

 I recently stated that Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) may not even understand what is takes to create a business. I would have to agree based on my personal experience and views. Because the emphasis on teaching from upline is recruiting, IBOs make the error of thinking that establishing a business is merely recruiting down line. Without a downline, you won't be able to progress in Amway.

Many IBOs are ignorant that their upline diamonds want and need you to recruit an army for them since more prospective customers means more prospective customers to purchase voicemail, standing orders, books, and function tickets. As far as your diamond is concerned, the more the merrier. They get to parade around at parties, be treated like rock stars, and make a lot of money selling false hopes and dreams to all the Amway aspirants. I was at WWDB, and one of the most critical aspects of the business training was how many tools and function tickets were coming through your company, rather than product sales.

Building a larger customer or client base is critical in a real business because it is via product or service sales that profits are made. If Amway IBOs were honest with themselves, they would understand that they often sell very few items and instead focus on self-consumption in order to follow upline instructions to be "duplicatable," or to set a positive example for others, including any downline.

Self-consumption, on the other hand, is neither a business model nor a strategy. In my perspective, it's a deceptively disguised product pyramid. Can you think of a successful store where the majority of the items and services are purchased by the owner and/or employees? The truth is that there is no such thing as a successful self-consumption business, yet upline manages to convince IBOs and prospects that self-consumption may be profitable in the Amway model. Sorry, but it also doesn't work there.

Finally, a dedicated IBO who follows upline teaching in general will spend approximately $300 per month on Amway items, plus an additional $200 to $400 per month on tools and functions on average. Depending on your level of commitment and whether you are a single person or a couple, it could be a little more or a bit less.

How many IBOs would join up if they were told upfront that Amway would cost them an extra $500 or more per month, rather than the pitch that they would make money or, at the very least, save money by doing so? I'm sure there would be very few takers, which is why I've been blogging for so long. To provide knowledge and perspective on this shambles of a business prospect.

Avoid Negative?

Avoid Negative?

 One of the reasons why Amway IBOs who are actively in the business begin to ignore their friends and family is because they are instructed to avoid negative people. They'll claim that your family and friends simply don't get Amway, and they'll finally wear you down with nasty comments and attitudes.


My sponsor once told me he had a "warm," which meant he had a cold but was complaining about it, so he dubbed it the opposite. Of course, you don't want to be surrounded by negativity, but avoiding your family and friends is one of the reasons why some people compare Amway to a cult.

You may even be advised to avoid watching the news or reading the newspaper because the news can be perceived as negative, and you should fill your mind with only positive information. As a result, you should avoid watching the news and instead listen to Amway audios and associate with Amway representatives. Who are intended to pull you up instead of bringing you down with their negativity?

To put it another way, your upline wants to make all of your decisions for you. As if you couldn't figure out what you needed to know on your own. Also, merely being fed positive information isn't helpful for anyone. Never feeling pain, for example, may appear to be a positive thing, but it can lead to death since you may suffer injuries or illnesses that would go unnoticed if you couldn't feel pain or discomfort.

At the end of the day, irony reigns supreme. If and when IBOs track their business expenses and analyse a profit loss statement, they will all suffer a great deal of financial hardship. The diamonds that sell tools and functions are the ones who make the most money with the Amway opportunity, as opposed to many others. Upline diamonds have come up with yet another ridiculous and useless piece of advice. It is my hope that by pointing things out, someone would be able to spot the hoax.

Amway Team Meetings?

Amway Team Meetings?

 One of the most inconvenient aspects of my Amway experience was what my upline referred to as "team" meetings. I mean, we're all individual enterprises, so being referred to as a team sounds strange. In my own experience, many IBOs seemed to be their only customers, simply buying 100 PV and having no due line but hanging in there in the hopes of eventually striking it rich down the road. Although these IBOs have little prospect of turning diamond or even platinum, the income from tools and functions makes them desirable to the diamond.


When we had to work the next day, our team meetings were frequently held at midnight on weeknights. Our upline warned us that doing what most people won't do will result in rewards that most people wouldn't see. In the end, these sessions yielded little new information, and they simply made it more difficult to work the next day. Imagine that our day jobs, which kept us afloat, were intended to be of secondary importance to the Amway business.


Our upline wanted to pound success cliches into our heads, so we spent the majority of our team meetings discussing them. It was essentially to never give up and to put more money into tools because we had been persuaded that standing orders, functions, and books were crucial to our success. After a while, I realised it was strange that so many people were completely committed to the system yet had yet to make a single profit or sponsor a single down line.

A good tree bears good fruit, whereas a bad tree bears bad fruit, according to a proverb. This is what the diamonds used to say, but most people's efforts bore no result. This is because to the fact that the majority of people are unaware that the Amway system is severely defective and designed solely to provide cash to the diamonds and upper management. There is no documented and unbiased proof that the system is effective.

Sure, every now and then someone can beat the odds and become a diamond, but they are frequently unable to maintain their qualifications and quickly fade from view. These Amway rising stars, on the other hand, are the living proof that the system works. That's despite the reality that tens of millions, if not billions, of people have failed over the years despite upline's guarantees that anyone can succeed.

Look at facts and examine your income and expenses, if you're looking for information or if you're an IBO. Examine your realistic chances for improvement. If your upline tells you that new tools and functions are the answer, inform them that these costs are refundable in cash if business doesn't improve. Of course, they'll never give it to you.

But if you've gotten this far and still want to attempt, I wish you luck.

Amway Recruiting?

Amway Recruiting?

If you've ever worked for Amway or been in contact with Amway representatives, you're probably aware that the company's primary focus is on downline recruitment. I feel that many individuals are prospected and feel that you can make money by selling things, which is correct; however, because your upline makes more money by recruiting down line, that becomes the focus.

Amway items are primarily generic in nature but premium in price, making it difficult to sell anything to anyone other than supportive friends and families. This is why IBOs are frequently taught the popular "buy from yourself" notion, in which you consume largely things from your own company and encourage others to do the same. Some of my upline ingeniously referred to this as a Costco-style buyers club, but it is an incorrect comparison.

As a Costco member, I do not go out and attract other Costco members. Why does it happen in Amway when neither Costco nor Amway pays you to acquire new members? It's because IBOs understand that in order to reach higher levels like platinum or diamond, you need a lot of downline because you're credited for their volume as well as yours, which allows you to earn bigger incentives.

Where this strategy falls short is that Amway has a shady reputation, making recruiting and keeping downline a difficult task in and of itself. Another failing is that, according to Amway's own disclosures, over half of all registered IBOs do nothing. Then, among those who do engage in some form of action, the majority will quit in less than a year.

Even if you could sponsor a new downline every month, the chances of you making a net profit are next to none if you use the tools and services. Diamonds who pretend to be free and live in luxury with large sums of money are actually pretty busy replacing IBOs who depart in order to keep their levels up. They might miss out on bonuses if they don't, and the income from tools and functions would almost certainly disappear without fresh people joining the system.

Behind the scenes at Amway, it's all about recruitment and nothing else. Everything becomes quite clear if you grasp the concept.

Amway Numbers?

Amway Numbers?

Prospects with false aspirations and dreams are frequently sold on the Amway offer. The diamonds, some of whom may be in debt themselves, are assuring you that if you follow their advice, you may attain financial independence and untold wealth through Amway. Of course, they never show proof of their wealth. It's possible that you'll see photocopies of cheques or wealth slide shows.

But, in actuality, what is the situation? So, what are the figures? Amway appears to obscure their numbers, so you won't receive a straightforward response. In order to draw certain conclusions, you must extrapolate.

To begin with, prior to covid, Amway sales had been rather stable. It's very possible that Covid will aggravate the situation. However, there are some numbers to consider. The typical IBO gets roughly $200 per month, but that's only if you don't consider the IBOs who don't do anything, so the true average is approximately $100 per month, which includes diamonds and other big shots but excludes annual incentives. Rank-and-file IBOs, on the other hand, do not receive significant annual bonuses.

Some estimates may have altered, but around 1 in 400 IBOs achieve the gold level, which is supposedly where you break even if you are also active in tools and functions. About 1 in 20,000 or so people achieve diamond status, and maintaining that status is a different storey.

But the essential figures are this: if you are a CORE IBO and purchase your 100 PV and attend all functions, you will most likely spend $500 or more each month on products and “training” (and even more for couples). In exchange, you receive an Amway check of roughly $10 per month, which represents a significant net loss unless you have a large enough down line to cover your losses.

Until you look at the numbers, Amway may appear to be a viable financial option.

Amway: Failure By Design?

Amway: Failure By Design?

 It's no secret that Amway businesses are notoriously difficult to succeed in. The diamonds will claim that they didn't try hard enough, or that they didn't follow directions correctly, or that they made up additional reasons to blame the victims. It's unfortunate since many IBOs are dedicated and determined individuals, but when everything is set up for failure, it's a recipe for disaster. That's exactly what you'll get.

Amway is a company that is built to fail. Please allow me to clarify. The products sold by Amway are generic in nature. Some of the goods are good, while others are bad, but Amway items are nothing spectacular in general, despite their high price. Who wants to pay top dollar for generic natural products? Worse yet, how do you charge premium pricing for generically designed products?

If that wasn't enough, the diamonds take advantage of their subordinates by selling them an unending supply of training. Now, training would be fine if it were effective, but according to Amway's own disclosures, just a fraction of one percent of its distributors ever attain platinum status. Platinum, on the other hand, is supposed to be the level at which you start making real money.

When you combine all of these disadvantages with a business potential with a negative reputation, you have an opportunity that is like to swim the English Channel while wearing an anchor around your neck. The fact that the con has been going on for so long astounds me. I'm delighted I've been able to keep maintaining this blog in order to present knowledge and my personal experiences so that prospects can make educated judgments about whether or not to join Amway.

Amway And Your Cashflow?

Amway And Your Cashflow?

If you've ever heard an Amway sales pitch, you'll notice that they employ keywords like simple. Simple does not imply that you can accomplish it or that it is simple. Lifting 500 pounds is straightforward, but the majority of people are unable to do it. The ability to display the plan, sponsor downline, and sell Amway products are all in the same category. So, while it's true that Amway is straightforward, that doesn't make success any more likely than being able to lift 500 pounds.

The diamond's pitch is quite pleasant. They'll tell you that you should save money and invest it. Who doesn't want to make more money or save more money, if taken at face value? It appears to be true, yet it is not. For example, an 8 ounce bottle of Amway shampoo costs roughly $8.00, whereas a quart of shampoo costs roughly the same amount at Walmart. That isn't to imply that Amway items aren't worthwhile, but overall, shopping with Amway will not save you money.

What you're generally not told is that joining Amway will almost certainly result in major cash flow problems. It will cost you around $300 or more to move 100 PV or more, and if you are participating in tools and functions, you will most likely pay $200 or more to perform what your upline suggests. That's at least $500 every month.

To engage in Amway in business building mode, you must spend at least $500 each month. Tell me how you save and make money once more. In most cases, moving 100 pv will get you a 3% bonus, or roughly $10. What methods do you use to save or earn money?

Upline will tell you that's $10 more than you would have earned if you didn't do anything. That, however, is not the case. To shop at a store, you don't require special tools or features. Are you truly saving money by using Amway items, which are not cheap? If you join Amway, the reality is that you will save $500 every month on items. Were you warned up front that unless you sponsor an army of down line or sell a tonne of pricey things, your business is likely to have a significant cash flow problem?

I don't see how the myth of making or saving money can be supported by upline. Consider this: I may earn 1 or 2 percent back as a rebate by buying elsewhere with a cash back credit card without having to make a minimum purchase or using any tools or functions. I hope that this article is useful to someone.

What’s Better Than Amway?

What’s Better Than Amway?

 One of the more ridiculous questions I receive from IBOs is what is better, considering I believe Amway is a terrible method to generate money. Actually, if people made money with Amway, I wouldn't have anything to say against it. However, it is a truth that the vast majority of people in Amway either make no money or lose money. The tools and functions are usually the cause of losses.

So, which of the two is preferable? Staying at home and doing nothing is preferable since you will not be wasting your time and money chasing an opportunity that will almost certainly result in a loss. It's better to stay at home and watch "The Simpsons," since you'll be entertained. But, seriously, if you're looking for a way to supplement your income, this is not the way to go. What options are available to you?

Part-time jobs are available. You certainly can. Some of the additional cash should be put to good use, and some should be put to good use as well. This is the path I took when I was younger, and it has now paid off handsomely. Start a legitimate company that specialises in anything like flooring installation or security doors. Although some talent is required, these can be done part-time and produce good results.

You may also buy and sell items such as used vehicles by flipping them. Purchase one for a low price, fix it up aesthetically, and then resell if you make a profit. Alternatively, discover a niche market in which you can offer insurance or burial plots on a part-time basis. These are legitimate methods for earning additional funds. Finally, you must make your own decision, but I can assure you that practically anything you do will be more profitable than working with Amway.

If you choose to pursue something, I wish you the best of luck.

Upline Love?

Upline Love?

I'm reminded of the Amway love bombing. To be honest, I thought it was odd. After all, who says they love you just because you joined Amway? Those who left Amway were shunned and frequently referred to as losers, thus the relationships were mostly superficial. It's amazing how quickly you can go from being appreciated to being a loser in a matter of days.

Upline would rationalise it by claiming that the person who left was the one who broke the relationship, hence it was their fault. Amway executives have a knack for pointing the finger at the wrong person. The IBO's decision to leave Amway had nothing to do with the company's poor business practises. Selling generic nature products at high-end prices is a hurdle that most individuals are unable to overcome.

The inability to move items and sponsor people appears to be one of the most common reasons for people quitting. Then there's the never-ending expense of purchasing personal-use products, tools, and functions. It has a significant impact on IBOa and is most likely the reason why so many people quit so frequently.

It's not because the IBOs are slackers or inept. It's because when they join Amway, they're joining a business opportunity where the vast majority of people will fail. MLM and Amway are inherently like this. If you don't acquire new members on a regular basis, the scheme will break apart like a cheap suit.

You'd think that now that Amway is an Internet business, they'd be thriving, but I feel that Amway and their Independent Business Owners (IBOs) are struggling because they can't readily recruit new members. And a product pyramid scheme's recruitment is a red signal. I'm not here to bash Amway, but the company's 2020 sales projections are likely to back up my assumptions.

Why up-line is so angry and abusive when a down-line IBO quits?

Why up-line is so angry and abusive when a down-line IBO quits?

 "The Amway Con-Game," in fact, is a better title.

Most IBOs on the down-line will either resign quickly, go broke, or become brainwashed slaves who will provide a continuous stream of cash to the up-line. This is why Amway emphasises the importance of NEVER GIVING UP and how SUCCESS IS CERTAINLY IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID.

The savvy IBOs who left after a few months or a year have no recourse against their up-line. They also don't care about IBOs who go bankrupt, because up-liners aren't interested in people who don't have money. They DO CARE, however, about the deluded "Core" types who continue to pay money up-line year after year. Those are the ones who need to be kept in the game by up-line, whether by promises or threats. These "Core" knuckleheads are the lifeblood of the entire Amway charade. Joe Cool's dopey friend, who has worked for Amway for 26 years without success, is a classic example. Consider how much money the dumb knucklehead has wasted on up-selling! People like him, on the other hand, are valuable to Amway since nothing will persuade them to quit up, which is why they must be educated and promised riches, as well as terrified and abused if they even consider the whole thing to be a mistake.

When a devoted companion ""I'm quitting," IBO announces to his upline. Amway is no longer a part of my life ", the up-line is in a fit of fear. A significant source of revenue is about to go! "OK, so long and good luck," the up-line will not quietly accept it. Instead, up-line would yell, shout, and shout at the IBO, calling him all kinds of derogatory names.

What does this say about the Amway charade as a whole? If you tell your boss you're leaving in any other industry, he may be sorry, but he'll say something like, "Sorry to lose you, but I respect your wishes and I wish you well." Because HIS BUSINESS IS NOT DEPENDENT ON AN ISOLATED INDIVIDUAL, the employer may take it in stride. He'll be OK even if you don't show up.

However, in the Amway business, EVERYTHING IS DEPENDENT ON A STRONG DOWN-LINE. It's from there that money starts to flow. As a result, when an IBO leaves, it sends shivers all the way to the top of the pyramid system.

This is why when a down-line IBO departs, the up-line becomes enraged and hostile.

The Game Of Amway?

The Game Of Amway?

For a new IBO, the Amway business can be thrilling. You haven't yet been introduced to the hard realities of growing an Amway business, and your head is filled with all kinds of dreams of money and early retirement. The reputation of the company and other variables that make doing business difficult have yet to be discovered.

However, after a while, an IBO may have gone through the majority of their contacts and is settling into a routine. I call it the Amway game because these people continue to believe in the dream, attending all meetings and functions, purchasing and listening to audios, and reading self-help books.

Doubt has crept into that IBO's mind, but upline has already persuaded them that quitting makes them a loser, and that without Amway, they will have little chance of ever reaching their financial goals. Consequently, you continue. You don your suit and put on a phoney smile and go about your business. Even if it implies self-consumption, you increase your volume. You continue to do the CORE steps at your own expense even if your business isn't expanding because you've been taught that success is just around the corner if you don't give up. Despite the fact that your cash flow is negative month after month, you keep going.

It is at this point that you have joined the Amway game. You keep trying your hardest, but it's well known that even the most hardworking and bright individuals can fail in Amway due to the broken system. The products are too expensive to be fully competitive, and the expense of tools and functions quickly depletes your resources.

Even if you never make a penny from Amway, your upline will always support you since they profit from your tool and function purchase. Upline benefits from your perseverance since it keeps the money pouring. When you think about it, it's really simply a nasty game. The game of Amway. Most individuals eventually snap out of it, but other people, like my old sponsor, have been involved in Amway since 1994, despite not achieving much for his efforts.

Amway becomes more of a pastime than a company since it is designed to be played like a game. Hobbies cost money; a business, on the other hand, is designed to make you money.

The Cult Of Amway?

The Cult Of Amway?

One thing that a neutral observer will notice is that Amway groups and leaders bear some resemblance to cults. The main difference is that you can come and go, but there is still peer pressure to stay in the group and not quit because quitting will earn you the label of a quitter, loser, or broke loser. Although the pressure isn't overt, it's there.

The jewels are lavished with praise. My first open meeting as a prospect was attended by the diamond, who was greeted like royalty and received a standing ovation as he entered the room. And his claim to fame? Getting to a certain level in Amway. True, becoming a diamond is a difficult task, but it is hardly deserving of the title of a rock star. Worshipping a leader, on the other hand, is a cult-like trait.

The IBOS are all fighting for the same thing. They're all looking for financial independence through the Amway business, and they're all hoping to achieve it in a short period of time. The IBOS are uniformly dressed in professional clothes, act in the same manner, and use many of the same products. They all fall into line and attempt to "earn time" with the leader. These are also cult-like characteristics; after all, who has to wear a suit to learn how to purchase, sell, and recruit others to join? The rank and file believe they are simply acting successfully because if they just keep going, they will eventually succeed.

However, in the end, the upline just takes advantage of their position to bully the downline. They persuade them that they require an infinite supply of training and Amway education via tools and functions in order to achieve their dreams of a better life. Diamonds, in my opinion, don't give a damn about the bottom line. They exist solely to be abused so that the diamonds can live the diamond lifestyle.

As a result, diamonds must charge full or virtually full price for zoom meetings and similar services, despite the fact that many IBOs are currently unable to start a business due to Covid 19. If you read this and decide to join Amway nevertheless, you can't say you weren't warned.

Never Ending?

Never Ending?

 I've noticed that the stories concerning Amway's downfall never seem to end. Almost everyone has heard of someone who has had a bad experience with Amway. Most people only stay for a short time before quitting and moving on. However, many people devote their time, money, and effort only to be duped by their upline into continuing to engage in a money pit business.

Worse, the training never seems to finish, as if selling products and sponsoring people is so difficult. Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOS) believe they are investing in an Amway education, but in truth, they are subsidizing their upline's lifestyle. The Amway education is frequently likened to college, which is nonsense because college eventually ends and the graduate must seek employment.

The IBOS keep spinning their wheels, frequently to no avail, only to dig a deeper financial hole. Some people discover that after a year or two, they've spent thousands or tens of thousands of dollars attempting to stay the course and follow the advice. In the end, a huge group of Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs) could lose a lot of money. Do the math: if a diamond group of 1000 downline members pays $250 per month on tools and functions, the diamond can earn $250,000. They might earn $150k or more after expenditures, with some of it being split with platinum and above.

But I just wanted to give you a sense of the scale of the fraud being perpetrated on the down line. When you think about it, it's frightening and can make you upset. The pernicious thing is that the diamonds make the down line believe they are assisting them. All I can say is that I hope prospects and IBOS keep looking for information. It's for this reason that Joecool hasn't given up blogging.

Never Ending Training?

Never Ending Training?

You've come to the right place if you're an IBO or a prospect interested in learning more about the Amway business opportunity. In this post, I will reveal the Amway business's secret. You're probably intrigued, and I'm guessing your boss doesn't want you to read this.

Selling Products, purchasing items, and recruiting people down line to leverage their volume with yours to earn more commissions or a greater PV incentive are all part of the Amway business model. That's all there is to it. There isn't much else you can do to assist your business to succeed aside from these tasks.

Attending seminars, whether online or in-person, depletes your financial resources and does not result in more PV flowing through your company. It's also pointless to listen to a cd or audio. It does not result in Product sales or increased business volume. The same may be said about reading a book or attending a team meeting, or whatever it's called these days.

The key is how much time and money you are willing to invest in learning this fundamental buying, selling, and recruiting downline chores. Yes, your diamond may have some suggestions, but why would you want an unlimited amount of training to accomplish this? I'd add that paying for training on a regular basis is pointless if the results don't match what you're spending your time and money on.

Take a moment to look around. Is it true that other IBOs are growing like weeds and making real money, or is that information kept under wraps? You'd think that real success should be shared, but at Amway, it's a closely guarded secret. Because they don't want you to see reality, the rank and file are told not to talk about business unless it's with upline.

The reality is that the majority of people are struggling, clinging to life by a thread and hope that their luck would change. However, for the vast majority of IBOs, the end will come, and more Amway casualties will result. And the diamond is well aware of this, but he wants you to stay as long as possible so that he can harvest your tools and functions for profit.

Consider that for a moment. Consider your business and examine the facts. I'm hoping you'll come to the same conclusion as I did.

Joe, Patrick & Joyce

Patrick&Joyce Joe is the world's youngest Crown Ambassador. Patrick Joe and Joyce Joe started their business in Thailand in 2002 when they were 24 and 21, reaching 3% in the first month, 21% in the second month when the first leg breaks out. They
obtained a Ruby volume in the third month, breaking the second leg. They had 3 qualifying legs after just 4 months in the business and they earned Platinum with six qualifying groups and Pearl pins in March 2003, barely six months after the sign-up and Ruby in April 2003. Emerald in 11 months and Diamond in 23 months. They gained Executive Diamond in 2006 and Founders Diamond in 2007. They became Founders Executive Diamond, Double Diamond and Founders Double Diamond in 2010, qualifying as Triple Diamonds in August 2011. They achieved Crown in 2012, Crown Ambassador in 2013.

They expanded their business to the United States (U.S.A. and Canada) on September 2009 and were recognised as new Silvers in February 2009, New Platinum and Ruby, New Founders Platinum Plus in August 2010 and Emerald in February 2011. Founders Emerald and Diamond attained in August 2011.

They travelled to build their second business in the Philippines in October 2008 and were recognised as new Silvers in December 2008, new Pearl in February 2009, new Platinum in July 2009, and Founders Emerald in August 2009 and in November 2010.

Braveberry Group's founding members


Achievements In Thailand

  • Joined: September 2002
  • Platinum: March 2003
  • Ruby: April 2003
  • Sapphire: June 2003
  • Emerald: August 2003
  • Diamond: July 2004
  • Founders Platinum: August 2004
  • Founders Sapphire: August 2005
  • Executive Diamond: July 2006
  • Founders Emerald: August 2006
  • Founders Diamond: August 2007
  • Double Diamond: February 2010
  • Founders Executive Diamond: August 2010
  • Founders Double Diamond: August 2010
  • Triple Diamond: August 2011
  • Crown : July 2012
  • Crown Ambassador: August 2013


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