An anonymous reader wrote a comment on a post that I felt was eye opening enough to warrant its own post because I thought a lot of people could have missed the post on which the reader had commented. Just more evidence that no matter how high you climb the Amway pyramid, the promised money will not be found there waiting.
As double eagle rubies, my wife (now ex-wife) and I received the diamond incentive award in 1999 (I believe it was 2000). Everyone thought we were making good money, and we were....but it was mostly on tools and then bonus cheques...but it was the year-end bonus cheque that made the biggest difference.. While I was travelling back east to work a let there, I was losing sleep, sleeping in airports, and generally being miserable because I was determined to "do whatever it took." I have no regrets about what I did. The type of person I became as a result of seeking attention and enjoying it when other people would come up to me at functions with their tape recorders, wanting to know what I knew (as if I was some sort of guru) is something I regret. The business itself is not a humble, walk soft type of enterprise. At least, not in terms of my own personality. The company operates in a sound financial manner. It was the people and their attitudes, as well as the late nights and the people who were worshipping, that were so terribly wrong. and they claim that anyone can put it together. And I'm no longer convinced...a shy, non-aggressive person with very low cash and no ambition to sell anything will not be able to develop a successful business...
I recall when I was a 4000pv, my upline bounced a bonus check on me, and I continued to pay everyone in my downline, and no one refunded me for the bounced cheque...hmmm
THAT SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY SERVED AS A WAKE UP CALL FOR ME RIGHT THERE....WTF!!
As if it were a big surprise to any of the regular readers to learn that I wasn't paying attention at Amway meetings, here's my proof that I wasn't.
I have absolutely no notion what a double eagle ruby is! The fact that there was an Eagle in my upline, cocksucking son of a bitch that he was, is something I know. According to reports, he had a downline of six persons. The fact that he funded our sponsor is enough for me to despise the fucking little troublemaker. He was always bragging that the little cocksucker was going to double eagle next month or within the next couple of months, and then he'd be Platinum in three months, which was a complete lie. NOT!!!!! So I'm going to assume you have 12 persons in your downline for double eagle. However, I have no idea what the ruby component of anything is.
The term "Diamond incentive" is also foreign to me, although former double eagle ruby has clearly progressed much further in "the business" than the majority of ambots.
It was the end of his marriage, as it had been for so many other unfortunate victims of the Amway cult.
Let this serve as a cautionary tale for any couples out there who are thinking about getting involved in this pyramid scheme. A scam business like Amway is better suited for single men who possess male chauvinist pig characteristics. Women have no place in the Amway good old boy's club, other than to "support" their husbands in their business endeavours.
This individual tells us a number of things about what it's truly like to work in the Amway industry. First and foremost, he has reached a point in his Amway career where everyone believes he should be making money. I recall all of the Scamway meetings I attended, where the cult leader would tell us that Platinums make $75,000 per year, Emeralds make $125,000 per year, and so on and so forth, with the figures getting higher and higher. I'm not sure what the base mark income that the upline claims a double eagle ruby should be making should be, but it appears to have been another fable on their part. However, there is a level where he made money on tools, which accounted for the majority of his revenue in addition to a year-end bonus check.
He spent a lot of money on travel expenditures to expand his business, which I assume was because his upline instructed him to do whatever it needed to be successful. Never put yourself in the shoes of your superiors!
The most significant cost was that Amway transformed him into someone he did not like. He was starting to resemble the person I saw at social gatherings. Cult leaders that desire to be worshipped by their cult members are attention seekers who seek money.
This individual expresses some regrets, which I have observed in other former ambots as well, and this is all a result of the brainwashing process. Even after leaving Amway, I was still brainwashed in certain ways. They continue to believe that Amway is a good business. They acknowledge that this is not the proper business for them, but they don't appear to recognise that they have been duped in any way.
I appreciate his candour in stating that Amway is not for everyone and that it requires a certain sort of mentality to be successful. Avoiding Amway is a good idea if you are shy, do not want to be aggressive, and do not have a limitless amount of money.
Amway is a company that should be avoided at all costs! Given the fact that this information comes from someone who created a business once and then presumably resigned without seeing any of the mythical residual income coming in forever, but who still believes that an Amway business is good for certain individuals, he asserts that it is not good for everyone.
Current ambots would simply mock him and tell him that he didn't try hard enough, and they would tease him that his wife left him because he wasn't macho enough for the Amway business, among other things.
I've been there and witnessed it all. I understand what those brainwashed Amway bastards are thinking about.
The cult meetings I attended, where the cult leaders would persuade the audience that this business is so simple that anyone can do it, were a bust.
A cheque from his upline was returned to him. There isn't much of a surprise there. Our upline was never in possession of any money. They looked on my husband for everything from providing beverages for Amway meetings, purchasing food if they were gathering at a coffee shop, providing seats, supplying Amway motivating materials, and so on for everyone in their organisation. When we attempted to persuade our sponsor Captain Fuck Up to buy back the tools, he declined, claiming he lacked the financial means to do so. That was a pleasant surprise. When it came to Amway policies, our upline had no qualms about flouting them, particularly the one stating that purchasing tools is optional, but that the upline is still obligated to assist you in building your Amway business and that the upline is supposed to buy tools back if the IBO asks them to.
IF YOU DO NOT PURCHASE TOOLS, I WILL NOT WORK WITH YOU!!!!!!! I've heard that one at every ScAmway conference I've attended!
That being said, here is the situation. Take a fraudulent check to the police and file fraud charges against the individual who wrote it, and then file a claim against them in small claims court to recover your money. In the event that anyone in our Amway upline had written us a bad check, I would not have hesitated to do so, but then I didn't care for any of the fucking jerks in our Amway upline. I'm assuming this individual followed the example set by his upline and didn't want to cause any issues for them.
His upline signing bad checks is sufficient proof that Amway independent business owners (IBOs) are liars, scammers, who commit fraud, and who break the law. Not to mention the general disreputable and immoral nature of the population. Everyone at Amway is a carbon copy of the other.
Amway scumbuckets should be avoided at all costs! Otherwise, it will cost you a lot of money as well as emotional turmoil!
Amway, one of the largest multi-level marketing firms in the world, has a bad reputation for being a "bloodsucker" of people who are wanting to make a quick cash. These people join Amway in the hopes of becoming wealthy quickly. The allure of achieving one's goals and gaining financial independence is enticing, but the reality is frequently quite different.
Many people who have been duped by Amway and have shared their stories of being emotionally and financially drained by the corporation after falling prey to the pyramid scheme that the company operates. They describe a world in which one is under constant pressure to sign up new members, make purchases and make sales, and attend an unlimited number of meetings and conferences. The primary goals of increasing one's sales volume, expanding one's customer base, and advancing one's career within the organization are constantly stressed.
The unfortunate reality is that a significant number of people who sign up with Amway wind up losing money rather than making it. They are expected to buy things at inflated prices, and then sell them to relatives and friends at prices that are typically lower than what they paid for the products. They are also obliged to attend pricey conferences and events, which can quickly add up to thousands of dollars in expenses for the company.
In addition to the monetary losses, many people who have left Amway experience a profound sense of disillusionment and betrayal upon leaving the company. They have the impression that they were sold a fantasy that was never going to come true, and that the company places a higher priority on profits than the health and happiness of its members.
It is crucial to conduct your research and approach Amway or any other multi-level marketing firm with caution if you are considering becoming a member of either of these businesses. Investigate the reality of what it takes to be successful in the sector rather than focusing on the enticing promises of wealth and success that may be presented to you. Ask yourself if you are willing to put in the time and effort necessary to achieve, as well as if the possible rewards are worth the risks involved in taking the opportunity.
Be aware of any company that asks you to make an initial investment of a significant amount of money or that puts pressure on you to bring in new members in order to make a profit. In addition, be wary of any organization that requires you to recruit new members. These are frequently the early warning indicators of a pyramid scheme, which is unethical and cannot be maintained over time.
If you are reading this and realize that you have already been duped by Amway, take comfort in the fact that you are not alone. Individuals who have been exploited financially or emotionally by the company can seek assistance from a wide variety of resources that are made available to them. Remember that you are deserving of better than to have your resources sucked dry by a firm that is a bloodsucker, and seek out support groups, legal guidance, and counseling if necessary.
In conclusion, it is essential to stay away from multi-level marketing firms like Amway and others that promise rapid accumulation of wealth and success. The reality, however, is frequently quite different, with many persons incurring financial losses while simultaneously experiencing feelings of disillusionment and betrayal. Do your homework and proceed with caution, and keep in mind that you don't deserve to be taken advantage of by a corporation that's just after your money. You deserve better.
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